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canyaz 56F
17128 posts
6/16/2011 6:12 am

Well that was spot on. I don't believe in hell. I think it is a made up place to keep the peasants in line. Religion has to keep its hold on the masses and their favorite tool is fear.
Inherently humans are good or evil. Once in a while the lines are blurred. Most of us live our lives trying not to hurt others, do well by our life and be a good person.
As to the deepest heart ache, there is a line I read once; Of all the lines in tongue or pen, the saddest are "it could have been".
That line has stuck with me since I was 9 years old. "It could have been" implies, it wasn't. Something was lost and now the outcome has changed. Death, divorce, change as a whole has a loss that makes someone ache. It changes us, sometimes so deeply, the ache takes years to ease.
Good post.

There is a difference between a good BJ and a bad BJ.
canyaz


rm_kelidgh 61F
15971 posts
6/16/2011 6:12 am

Questions of faith and belief so early in the morning ..
No - I don't believe in hell ... and I also don't believe that there is always a "that is right" or "that is wrong" label for all acts - since circumstances may cause you to choose the "less desirable" act for the most stellar of intentions.

Hell is, to me, a fear based construct meant to control and or influence decisions - created long before laws were created to accomplish the same goals. I've always believed that religion as many practice it is directly related to the reason they were created - to answer questions that people had to explain the unknown ..
Hell - people thought that night air was bad - it wasn't the air - it was the other things wandering about that could eat you ...

Religion is, to me, a search for answers to the "big" questions - and while I can envy people their faith and belief, I am far too much of a "show me so I can have some manifestation that I can grasp" sort of person ... and I have no patience for those who are either too afraid or too willing to take another's word as their gospel - without having spent time actually contemplating the options.



~ [blog kelidgh]~ I am, indeed


rm_mutiger2009 69M
2853 posts
6/16/2011 10:35 pm

"I don't give them Hell. I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell."

Maybe Harry was onto something there, Norman? Truth, Reality ... each can sometimes seem like Hell right here on this Earth. Sometimes the Truth is very hard to face up to. Sometimes the Reality of daily living can be extremely harsh. Don't we all go through a few periods in our lives when the pain of suffering, be it physical, mental, emotional or spiritual, is so excrutiatingly intense we think that we must be going through "Hell On Earth"? I can only imagine that IF there is a place called Hell in the "afterlife" then it must be like that. My religious background informs my mind that Hell is the opposite of Heaven, a place where there is no eternal life and there is no God.


wickedeasy 74F
32404 posts
6/17/2011 11:39 am

hell.........

loneliness?

You cannot conceive the many without the one.


daveroswell 55M
4567 posts
6/17/2011 2:14 pm

Oh, what a complex question. I think that if there is indeed a hell, it's probably not as bad as it's been made out. I agree that organized religion does need something to keep us in line, to make us toe the line and follow them. At worst, I think hell is the absence of God, in whatever form we believe God to be in. No burning, no fire, no awful stuff, just a quiet uneventful time without the possibility of a higher positive power to look up to.

I'm just not sure about exactly what happens to us when we die. I know that Stephen Hawking has offered up his idea, that we simple cease to exist. I think that our sense of conscience, our ability to think, is something that means that something is there beyond the ability of machines, so I don't think it's like turning off a machine.


keithcancook 67M
18358 posts
6/20/2011 6:30 am

I do not believe that hell exists for me. It wouldn't bother me if it exists for Bin Ladin and his ilk, however.

blog on!


keithcancook 67M
18358 posts
6/21/2011 1:47 pm

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If he enjoys it, then he needs to go to the hell the nuns told me about. That'll fix him for sure. Of course that is just fantasy, which is a category that most of their teaching falls under.

blog on!


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