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Defiant to the end  

40Deuce 46M
4634 posts
3/16/2019 10:40 am

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3/17/2019 8:08 am

Defiant to the end


For a hot Texas minute at the turn of the millennia lady boxing was a thing people cared about . At the height of this fad a lady wrestler and a lady cagefighter have some kind of legit beef so they decided to have a boxing match . I remember this being on NBC but I feel like that can't be true , it must have been on Fox right ?

For four rounds the wrestling lady absolutely lambasted the cagefighting lady - it was pretty hard to watch . You know how in a Rocky movie or other boxing movie the matches show 10,000% more punches than land in a real boxing match ? It was like that - although is was mostly one sided . The match was stopped after the 4th round because the cagefighting lady had a cut they couldn't stop from bleeding .

But she never quit . She kept answering the bell . Now I understand that part of the cultural spirit we're trying to build here says that this should be admired - she didn't quit , she didn't back down , she had grit , guts , determination , etc. But realistically that's just stupid right ? I'm no doctor but I would wager my X-Men Gold #17 that she suffered some kind of brain trauma from that . I mean what is the point really ?

At the time I didn't know much of anything about MMA and I still don't know a lot , but I'm given to understand that generally speaking they train in 3 disciplines - grappling , whatever martial art they think is cool , and you know , boxing . So in retrospect I wonder why this lady was so wide open the entire fight - honestly it looked like she had no idea how to protect herself - she kept getting blasted in the face time and time again . I suppose at that time the whole MMA scene was a little more loose and maybe she didn't have a ton of training .

Around this same time there was a short-lived reality show about lady kickboxers . The climax of the show was them going to Thailand , where kickboxing is a big deal , and fighting in some bouts there . There was one lady who after 30 seconds it was clear she was hopelessly outmatched and she bailed on the fight after the first round . And she was mocked and ridiculed for being a quitter quite soundly . At the time I was one of those people who sneered at her lack of fighting spirit . But I see now that I'm older and wiser that there's literally NO reason to get a savage beating from a Thai woman like that .

I mean my buddy Sparky pays money for that but that's a whole different scenario .

I get why as a nation we we need to socialize braver so young dudes will go fight wars for us when we want them to , but I wonder what it is about our psychology that makes it so appealing . It can't be evolution because the sneaky coward gene is going to live long enough to procreate a lot more than the brave warrior gene . I mean when the saber toothed hippo shows up to eat the clan of the cave walrus the guy who rushes out to fight it is the guy that doesn't pass on his hero genes .

So why do we like it so much when the square-jawed hero stands on the bridge and says "You shall not pass !" to the ravening horde of leather-clad mutants ?

Someone has been captured and incapacitated . What do they do , cooperate with their captor or beg to be spared ?

Hell no .

They make it abundantly clear that they have absolutely no respect for their captor . They'd never Kneel Before Zod in a million years and they're not afraid in the slightest to say so . Sure , Baron Bloodlust could kill them where they stand if he decided to , but you wouldn't know that from the insults . This is done when a defeated character laughs or snarks at the one who beat them , often when they're in no position to do so , possibly broken in pain on the floor or behind bars . This could even be for something that has absolutely nothing to do with them . They just can't let the other character get a complete victory .

SUPER ULTRA MEGA SPOILERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As you all know I gave up on the Walking Dead some time ago but when I heard they were going to kill off Rick Grimes I wanted to see how that would go down so I watched a couple episodes leading up to his last episode . It started out promisingly enough - he did something stupid like the characters in that show do constantly and he actually paid for it . It was a little cliche to have him hallucinate seeing all the beloved characters that had died but it was nice too .

And then they RUINED it . Him blowing up the bridge in a unnecessary heroic sacrifice was lame to begin with AND THEN HE DIDN'T EVEN DIE !!!! They show him flying off in a fucking helicopter .

They suckered me back in and then sucked worse than ever .

Speaking of , as you've heard me complain about Shameless is really starting to go downhill and as further proof Fiona's exit was a HUGE disappointment . Not only did she not die she just left basically for no reason and with no build up at all .

Why are TV writers such pussies ? If someone is leaving the show I want that character to die . Horribly die preferably .

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smartasswoman 66F  
35813 posts
3/16/2019 11:05 am

So when this latest season of Shameless makes it to Netflix, are you recommending I don't watch?

Not that I ever listen to you. I watched the final seasons of Dexter and rued it; same with Battlestar Galactica.


40Deuce replies on 3/17/2019 8:09 am:
It's not BSG level where it made me retroactively hate the whole series , but it's weak

superbjversion2 68F  
24388 posts
3/16/2019 12:17 pm

Maybe professional fighters get money incentives per round.
As for the people that disparage the quitter .... they aren't the ones getting beat up, are they?

Opportunity may knock only once, but temptation bangs on the door forever!


40Deuce replies on 3/17/2019 8:11 am:
Exactly , as Cypress Hill said "While you're safe in your home I'm out here risking my dome"

classicalrebel4 68M
1755 posts
3/16/2019 1:01 pm

I've heard it reported that the person most likely to make an altruistic act of self-sacrifice for others are adult males who have already passed on their genes and therefore are expendable in terms of evolution. Darwin is often quoted as saying something about the survival of the fittest but I believe that is wrong. What he meant (and I have to check on this) is those members of a species that have the characteristics to survive the current environment have the greatest probability to survive long enough to pass on their genes. What you do doesn't have to make sense, just not kill you off before you have kids.

Please don't let me be misunderstood.


40Deuce replies on 3/17/2019 8:11 am:
Interesting

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