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Scary Enough For You?
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Scary Enough For You? Halloween has passed, but in Brooklyn, the controversy rages. Is it about knocking on doors of molesters? Nope. Is it about poisoned candy? Nope. It's about a high school student's costume. Halloween is supposed to be scary. Traditionally, and adults dress as monsters, ghouls, werewolves, ghosts, witches and the ilk. These are all acceptable. But what of real life monsters? Is it inappropriate to dress as one? They're saying yes in Manhattan Beach, an area of Brooklyn. Where Walter Petryk, an honor student, decided to show up for Halloween dressed as Hitler. No one was amused. Did I mention he goes to Leon M. Goldstein High School for the Sciences? Petryk says he has the right to free expression under the first amendment. He also said he was dressed as Hitler as a satire. He held a news conference the next day, where he said, "I'm not a Nazi. It's a Halloween costume. People have taken it too seriously . . . I'm not going to go around and kill Jews or anything." While it might have been a Halloween costume, he knew the trouble it would cause. On is way to school, he disguised his costume with an overcoat and bowler, so people would think he was dressed as Charlie Chaplin. One of his friends even told him he was going to get beaten up for wearing such a costume and then kicked him. The head of the PTA at the school is organizing a protest. On Monday, students will be marching from the school to the Holocaust Memorial Park in Sheepshead Bay. Because you know, the is all for genocide. Petryk is also facing a 10 day<b> suspension </font></b>for being politically incorrect. The Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee are calling the costume hate speech. They compared it to the Ku Klux Klan. Funny, I don't remember any of them protesting when Mel Brooks dressed up as Hitler. As a matter of fact, that's who the had in mind when he dressed that way. His step father said so. His step father, Harold Bloom is Jewish and had relatives die in the Holocaust. He said, at first he was "very disturbed" by the costume choice. But he went on to say, "If he had wanted to advocate my genocide, I wouldn't have allowed (the costume). "That wasn't the spirit in which he was doing this at all. He was doing it in the spirit of Monty Python and Mel Brooks." Notice no one says it's in the spirit of Cartman. Of course, then he would be advocating genocide. He also would have had to have worn a fat suit. I personally think Hitler is one of the scariest Halloween costumes anyone could wear. It even tops a Karl Rove mask. Or 12 year old girls dressed as hookers. Oh sorry, they dress that way most days, as they do their best to emulate Paris Hilton and the Pussycat Dolls. But what do you all think? Are there sensitivity limits to how scary you can be for Halloween?  |
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11/3/2006 6:08 am |
It is illegal in Germany to wear such a costume. You are not even allowed to display a swastika I believe anywhere in public. I dont know about other countries surrounding Germany. I say leave him alone. It is halloween and it is only one day. There have been movies, comedy shows such as Hogans Heroes, and I even have a computer game that takes place in World War II Germany that is full of Nazi stuff. I am sure that game is available in the US too. Steve
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11/3/2006 6:36 am |
My point about same as Zara's -- INTENT. Steve mentioned a show; I luv Hogan's Heroes. Did you know that the man who played the French prisoner was actually a survivor of the Holocaust? The man who played Col. Klink was a classically trained Shakesperian actor amongst other things. Just a couple of the show's 'in jokes'. I've battled stupidity over being German, countless times being called Nazi; of course the morons have no clue that that is a political party -- I'm Independent and even then don't vote party lines, I vote for the person and what they stand for. I have a movie called Shining Through, in which the main plot is based on that time in history and much is acted as if it was set in Germany itself -- so I should burn it? What about Schindler's List? That wasn't totally sympathetic to the Jewish community, because it did strive to show a lot of different aspects. Well before I hijack I'll put my splint back on. Just wanted to drop in. Oh, and I did the dick size/tit size post, since you were busy!  Later....
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11/3/2006 6:39 am |
Oh and one more thing {yeah I know} -- these 'outraged' people remind me of those before/after 9-11...where was their patriotism, their spirit, their moral convictions, their flags, etcetera...BEFORE? It must be 'nice' to only be outraged on alternate Fridays of a month, schedule permitting or whatever....
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tasteless and thoughtless and he obviously knew what he was doing, a good swift kick should do the trick,but all the other protesting and complaining is well over the top. Yep in germany its illegal and in England last year prince harry got a right royal telling off for wearing it. Holocaust denial is also a crime here I'm a   and i'm here to stay
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Maybe he should have kept the overcoat and bowler on, walked around saying "sieg heil" and told people he was Charlie Chaplin pretending to be Hitler. They probably wouldn't have said a word. Have tongue, will use it. Repeatedly.
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I think there is a fine line and he crossed it. The scariest thing here is his mindset...neither funny nor even mildly amusing in my book...fun is fun... To take that to that school was just plain cruel. Just a little food for thought............. If you really want to be happy, nobody can stop you... {=}
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11/3/2006 9:20 am |
didn't prince charle's younger son dress up as him a few years back and got booed by the photogs?
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11/3/2006 1:07 pm |
 He is a boy and a goy and a goy boy can make silly mistakes when they are growing up. Prince Henry made the same mistake not long go at a fancy dress party, with similar results.I'm damm glad that he didnt go as Andy Kaufman.
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I'm glad to hear that "Leon M. Goldstein High School for the Sciences" has so few problems that this can be such a major issue for them. This is just so ridiculous. Why do these people care if some kid dresses up as Hitler? After over fifty years of dramatic and comedic portrayals, who'd have thought Hitler's image had any shock-value left? Yes, the Nazi regime committed terrible atrocities and I'm not denying that for a moment. But this kid isn't glorifying them. The stepdad sounds like he's got his head screwed on straight, which is more than can be said for the PTA who felt the need to be offended on his behalf...
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It's bad taste and bad judgment. Just as it was bad taste and bad judgement when Prince Harry decided to do it. Yes, it should have been an issue and I am glad they addressed it, and both boys absolutely deserved to get called on it. It's one thing for Mel Brooks to dress people up as Nazis in a movie or on Broadway when he then provides opportunity after opportunity to depict said Nazis in various states of undignified and humiliating parody. It's another thing to go out in a straight costume trick or treating and kind of unimaginative, I think. It's about as creative and lazy as going for the pregnant nun look. This kid was clearly trying to shock but he puts no creativity into it. Why didn't he go as Joseph Mengele while he was at it? He could have brought along a friend and done fake experiments on him. That would have shown some thought. Or he could have dressed up as Jon Benet Ramsey. Complete with ropes. Take it a step further, he could have gone in a bloody military uniform with a missing arm and gone as an Iraq statistic. If he wanted to shock and demonstrated some dark humor at the same without pissing people off perhaps he could have dressed himself and a black friend up as a Negro plantation owner and a white slave. Gone as Or as OJ's missing glove. MissAnn, you bring out my seamiest side sometimes. Thanks for keeping me in touch with it, lol.
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wow, I wish I could edit and take out that extraneous ""Or as". *shrug.* oh well.
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And to think, I used to compare every teacher I had in Utah to Nazis. I wonder, if I did that when going to Kaysville jr high, if I'd have been in trouble, not for my costume choice, but for impersonating the faculty? One year, I dressed as King Diamond. Inverted cross and all. No one complained. Come into my realm! You aren't afraid...are you?
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Well, A F F completely removed my beautifully sarcastic post. I basically said when Mel Brooks features the Third Reich, it is framed within a movie where there are plenty of scenes to showcase the Nazis as incompetent, gauche, undignified fools. The kid went out in a straight costume. Sarcasticaly, I said that not only was it bad judgment, it also showed about as much imagination as the old pregnant nun costume. I wonder if the post got banned for the part where I then facetiously suggested that while the student was at it, he might have gone as Jon Benet with the ropes still attached. Or as OJ's missing glove? Or as Joseph Mengele? Or my suggestion that maybe a reverse role black plantation owner-white slave might have gone over better? My point was, he and Prince Harry exhibited bad taste and bad judgment and they each deservedly got called on it.
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Seems the kid got what he was really after.........attention.
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Kids do things in poor taste all the time. That is one way they learn. I like the idea of dressing as Halloween Hitler, because ridicule is one way humans show how ludicrous the enemy is. What Chaplin did in his movie. Hogan's Heroes and the Producers are just more sophisticated versions of the same impulse. Now real Nazis are scary!
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When you laugh at someone and their pathetic posturing you take away their power. Why I enjoy the Daily Show and Bill Maher so much!
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2/21/2007 4:20 am |
In Brooklyn, definitely an unwise choice of costume, but yes, sounds like characteristic overreaction on the part of Manhattan Beach's residents. Next year, some kid should dress up as Mel Gibson and see what reaction he produces.
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