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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 7:20 am


“The First Time” was the blogosphere’s top choice for the upcoming virtual symposium’s topic. As with all symposium topics, this one does not necessarily refer to anything sexual: Let’s let The First Time reflect as wide a range of interpretations as there are symposium participants!

For those new to the virtual symposium: In short, it’s a simultaneous act of blogging. Here’s how it works: Anybody with a blog on this site is welcome to join in. All choosing to participate will create something – an essay, a cartoon, an erotic story, a memoir, a series of one-line aphorisms, an image collage, a photo montage, a poem, or anything else – relating to “The First Time.” At a pre-arranged time and date (see below) all participants post their contributions.

Want a better sense of how it works – or just some good reads? Here’s a link to the participants’ list from the sixteenth symposium: Participants List For The Sixteenth Virtual Symposium Friends With Benefits

Feel free to take the basic idea of “The First Time” and stretch it to as wild an interpretation as you like -- the post should reflect you! The last thing we need is a dozen monotonous texts on the same topic. Anything goes, as long as there is a trace of the original idea in the post.

On the morning of Sunday, February 28, all participants will post their creations. Please, please, post ‘em to your own blogs early: I do want to link to them in a central post here, but I don’t want to be stapled to my desk all day.

I'll be responsible for posting links to your blogs here – I want to make this as effortless for participants as possible! Once you’ve posted, leave a note in the comments section here so I know to link to your submission. I will, of course, post latecomers… people do check back to see whether new participants have joined the symposium. But after the morning of February 28, I may not be updating the list as obsessively.

As for contributions themselves: The idea is to create something new, as opposed to using posts to respond to other posts (although the comments section will, of course, remain fair game). Leave a note in the blog comments, and I’ll use a post on this blog that day to link to all contributions.

First suggestion: Participants may want to refer to either the virtual symposium or the topic itself in their headline. Not a requirement – there are no requirements, save for originality and participation – but a suggestion which will let the wide blog community know what we’re doing.

Second suggestion: Consider using one of the larger sizes, which can be found in the box when inputting a post. I find the much larger sizes offputting and hard to read… but size 2, to my mind, balances having to squint and the vertigo-inducing larger sizes. (This post has been posted in size 2, for what it’s worth…) Of course, there’s always the trick of holding down the control button and hitting either the + or – keys, which for most websites serves to enlarge or shrink copy and images.

This is not a contest. No souvenir mugs will be sent, nor ribbons awarded. The idea here is for those interested to, on a single day, offer an interpretation of a single topic for the sheer fun of it.

By all means, encourage other bloggers to participate – and to let me know they’re doing so through this post, so on the morning of February 28 I can link to their posts. Oh, and please consider this an invitation – if not a request – to the symposium both on your own blogs, and in individual requests to bloggers whom you’d like to see represented. The more the merrier, right? There are some folks with very distinct voices on this site who aren’t yet participating – let’s bring ‘em in and make ‘em one of us, one of us, one of us!

Remember, of course, to keep things in your voice!

Every symposium, there are a few newbies who contribute posts, and don’t let me know about their contributions (I catch some by watching the “recent posts” feed, but that’s hit or miss). So… once you post, please leave me a note on the master list post, or here! (I get messages about the symposium which are attached to the blog a little faster than the ones which are emailed to me.)

Can’t wait to see the results!

the symposium, the symposium, the symposium... the viewers you bring in may be your own. Can't get more (verbally) naked than that...

Final note: When the page with all the contributors goes live, please consider adding the link to your post, even if the contribution has already gone live. Doing so allows people to readily access all the other offerings… which is, after all, one of the purposes of this exercise.


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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 7:47 am

    Quoting  :

Hope you do, too... looking forward to your contribution!

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 8:13 am

    Quoting Darling_Annette:
    Thank you, as usual!

    Now i just have to decide which First Time to write about *lol* ... xx A.

Whichever makes for the best visual, I would think...

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 8:14 am

    Quoting Sexy_SandraD:
    I'm a bit confused about how international intrigue relates to the first time.
Good catch! That was an editing error on my part, which I've now corrected...

And this, boys and girls, is why we don't attempt to copy edit at 5 a.m....

Appreciate the heads-up!

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 8:28 am

Hello, Annie:

We could use a little less suspense and a little more sanity in our presidential nomination process...

Thank you for promoting the result: I am looking forward to seeing your contribution on February 28!

Nous pourrions utiliser un peu moins de suspense et un peu plus la santé mentale dans notre processus de nomination présidentielle ...

Merci pour promouvoir le résultat: je suis impatient de voir votre contribution le 28 Février!

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spunkycumfun 60M/65F  
36111 posts
2/23/2016 9:17 am

This will be the first time I'll blog about the first time!


humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 9:20 am

    Quoting spunkycumfun:
    This will be the first time I'll blog about the first time!
Thus making this the first time the symposium features a meta-post!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25746 posts
2/23/2016 9:49 am

"Before attempting fisting, a Christian husband and wife should pray together and ask for divine guidance. The husband should ask that God guide his hand and work through him, and for the skill and patience to fist his wife correctly and maximize her pleasure. The wife should pray for openness and readiness to receive God’s love and grace in the form of her husband’s hand."

Oh! You wrote the FIRST Time. Never mind.

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KItkat1415 58F  
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2/23/2016 9:54 am

I've been writing about "First Times" all week long, but I have a special "First Time" that I'm saving for this symposium...
Kk

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sweet_VM 62F
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2/23/2016 10:09 am

I have to think about this one! Should be a great turnout! hugssssssssss V

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 10:30 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    "Before attempting fisting, a Christian husband and wife should pray together and ask for divine guidance. The husband should ask that God guide his hand and work through him, and for the skill and patience to fist his wife correctly and maximize her pleasure. The wife should pray for openness and readiness to receive God’s love and grace in the form of her husband’s hand."

    Oh! You wrote the FIRST Time. Never mind.
Why I do declare, sir, that you have given me an attack of the vapors!

And a potential topic for another symposium...

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 10:41 am

    Quoting KItkat1415:
    I've been writing about "First Times" all week long, but I have a special "First Time" that I'm saving for this symposium...
    Kk
Kudos to you for suggesting the selected topic this month! I've been enjoying your posts, and am looking forward to your held-back story this Sunday!

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 10:45 am

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    I have to think about this one! Should be a great turnout! hugssssssssss V
There was a lot of enthusiasm for the topic... I'm looking forward to a wide variety of interpretations!

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 11:00 am

    Quoting  :

Welcome to the virtual symposium! Looking forward to seeing your contribution.

The purpose of the exercise is to present multiple and varied interpretations on a single topic at more or less the same time, and as such I encourage folks to post their entry on the designated symposium morning.

That said...

This isn't a rule, because there are few rules. But I would ask that you not post quite this early for a simple reason: It's hard to keep track of contributions as it is, and if people start tossing contributions up at random times, I'm going to miss including them on the master list. This has already happened a few times...

And I do like to include everyone on the master list, so folks can get the recognition for participating!

There's one more consideration: I'm not going to put the master list up until the morning of Feb. 28, and once I do I encourage symposium participants to edit their posts and include a link back to the list, so their readers can see how others have interpreted the topic. Editing posts is easy enough, but it's a little more complicated once the posts have been moved down a bit.

I realize this is a non-answer... I guess the short version would be you are free to post when you want, but in the spirit of the communal aspect of the symposium, and of the idea of multiple interpretations appearing simultaneously, I'd encourage you not to. There is no reward for posting early (or reward at all).

Fair 'nuff?

Whatever you decide, it'll be good to have you as a contributor!

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 11:46 am

    Quoting  :

Again, I'm delighted you'll be part of the symposium...

and "edging" can be fun!

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Tmptrzz 58F
89666 posts
2/23/2016 12:31 pm

That's a great topic, now I just have to decided what I want to write about seeing how's its about the first time about any topic..thanks so much..

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author51 57F
104992 posts
2/23/2016 12:33 pm

Looking forward to posting as I have a lot of different ideas......

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 12:36 pm

    Quoting Tmptrzz:
    That's a great topic, now I just have to decided what I want to write about seeing how's its about the first time about any topic..thanks so much..
Welcome to the virtual symposium as a contributor! I'm looking forward to reading your contribution on the 28th... regardless of what you write about!

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humorlife 115M
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2/23/2016 12:38 pm

    Quoting author51:
    Looking forward to posting as I have a lot of different ideas......
Whee! This edition is looking to be a fun one...

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Annie_34 62T
5945 posts
2/25/2016 3:04 am


Bonjour Humorlife
Je suis venu voir en Amérique si tout va bien
Depuis hier , tout les commentaires s'effacent en France , dans la matinée .
C'est surement un bug , mais si cela persiste nous aurons un problème pour répondre le jour du symposium .
♥ Bisou ♥ Poton ♥ Annie ♥

Hello Humorlife
I came to America hopefully
Since yesterday, all comments disappear in France, in the morning.
This is probably a bug, but if it persists we will have a problem to meet the day of the symposium.
♥ Kiss ♥ Annie ♥



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Nous cherchons notre passage-♦-Dans le ciel où rien ne luit .

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1SexyGoodguy 55M

2/25/2016 6:42 pm

Hopefully the bugs have worked itself out. Here is my contribution:
Blogger's Symposium 17 First Time Sex in the Rain

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Annie_34 62T
5945 posts
2/25/2016 11:57 pm


Bonjour Humorlife
Je t'envois le lien de mon post avant que tout disparaisse
[post 3784477] post 3784477
♥ Bisou ♥ Poton ♥ Annie ♥


Hello Humorlife
I'm sending you the link to my post before everything disappears
[post 3784477] post 3784477
♥ Kiss ♥ Annie ♥



Notre vie est un voyage-♦-Dans l'hiver et dans la nuit
Nous cherchons notre passage-♦-Dans le ciel où rien ne luit .

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humorlife 115M
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2/26/2016 10:02 am

    Quoting  :

*laughing* May your goodness be amply rewarded!

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humorlife 115M
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2/26/2016 10:05 am

    Quoting Annie_34:

    Bonjour Humorlife
    Je suis venu voir en Amérique si tout va bien
    Depuis hier , tout les commentaires s'effacent en France , dans la matinée .
    C'est surement un bug , mais si cela persiste nous aurons un problème pour répondre le jour du symposium .
    ♥ Bisou ♥ Poton ♥ Annie ♥

    Hello Humorlife
    I came to America hopefully
    Since yesterday, all comments disappear in France, in the morning.
    This is probably a bug, but if it persists we will have a problem to meet the day of the symposium.
    ♥ Kiss ♥ Annie ♥


Hello, Annie:

My first reply to this was, of course deleted!

The comments should be staying on each post now... I see that you have posted your contribution, which is good -- as you know, for some reason the links to French contributions take longer to go live.

Thank you for your contribution, and for promoting the symposium... which will go forward on the day it was scheduled to do so!

Bonjour, Annie:

Ma première réponse à cela était, bien sûr supprimé!

Les commentaires devraient être hébergés sur chaque poste maintenant ... Je vois que vous avez posté votre contribution, ce qui est bon - comme vous le savez, pour quelque raison que les liens vers les contributions françaises prennent plus de temps pour aller vivre.

Nous vous remercions de votre contribution, et pour promouvoir le symposium ... qui aller de l'avant le jour où il a été prévu de le faire!

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humorlife 115M
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2/26/2016 11:03 am

Outstanding! Will scoop it up when I post the master list on Sunday. Thank you!

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Icould 62M
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2/26/2016 10:28 pm

Not sure it is really with the theme of things but throwing my name in the hat as well.

There you go
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SlenderGal88 54F  
10356 posts
2/26/2016 11:36 pm

Here is my post... Xoxo

[post 3785020]

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humorlife 115M
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2/27/2016 5:09 am

    Quoting  :

Thank you! I'll be sure to include this when I post the master list tomorrow...

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humorlife 115M
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2/27/2016 5:11 am

    Quoting Icould:
    Not sure it is really with the theme of things but throwing my name in the hat as well.
If this means you'll be posting a symposium contribution tomorrow... wonderful and welcome! Just leave me a note indicating which contribution it is (or put a reference to the symposium in the headline) and I'll include it in the master list.

Once the list is up, if you could include a reciprocal link, that would be lovely...

but again, welcome aboard! Looking forward to your contribution.

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humorlife 115M
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2/27/2016 5:12 am

Terrific! Good to have you contributing again... and I'll grab this tomorrow, when I post the master list!

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2trythis 57F
5109 posts
2/27/2016 7:22 pm

I just added two blogs for the symposium. Once the master list is posted tomorrow I will go back and add a link to it. Thank you.


NaughtyInSO 109F
9755 posts
2/27/2016 7:56 pm

It's close to midnight EST... Here's my contribution: quotThe First Timequot Seventeenth Virtual Symposium

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spunkycumfun 60M/65F  
36111 posts
2/28/2016 2:46 am

My contribution is posted - see FIVE FIRST TIMES.
The post number is 3785564.


author51 57F
104992 posts
2/28/2016 3:31 am

I have one for submission but I still can not link it over to you .One day I just might surprise you and be able to do that..lol.I am full of surprises..

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JDC_41 58M
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2/28/2016 5:24 am

Dear Humorlife
I hope the link will work [post 3783362] ( post number 3783362)


humorlife 115M
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2/28/2016 7:05 am

    Quoting  :

Hello, PerleDeSoie:

Can you keep a secret? It's very rarely too late to be included in the virtual symposium. Delighted you joined us again!

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humorlife 115M
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2/28/2016 7:06 am

    Quoting 2trythis:
    I just added two blogs for the symposium. Once the master list is posted tomorrow I will go back and add a link to it. Thank you.
Picked up both of 'em, and hopefully all the links will go live soon... looks as though you were doubly inspired by the topic, which is wonderful!

And... thank you for adding the reciprocal link: Helps build the community, y'know?

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humorlife 115M
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2/28/2016 7:09 am

    Quoting brave2trythis2:
    I added one post under this profile as well. This was such an easy topic, it was hard not to write about a first time of doing so many things. Will add a link to the master list tomorrow. Thanks.
Heh... we have at least one poster who will occasionally post two offerings under a single blog... I think you may be the first (although there's some debate about this) to be one individual posting under two blogs...

So lo! Another first time for us! Thank you for all your contributions!

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humorlife 115M
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2/28/2016 7:11 am

Thank you for the contribution, of course... and thank you for holding off so I can keep the contributions grouped, and reduce the risk of missing any... last symposium I didn't see one contribution until a few days had passed... yowch!

Looking forward to reading yours!

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humorlife 115M
5710 posts
2/28/2016 7:14 am

    Quoting  :

Time shifts due to location being what they are, I'm willing to say that it was 11:59:59 somewhere... so we'll give you credit for it.

Welcome to the virtual symposium! Delighted you're as enthusiastic about contributing as you are, and hope you enjoy the community you've stumbled into!

The links are being wonky this morning: I've already made my call to the Help Desk, and have been told to call back and ask to be escalated. The links do resolve after a while, sometimes, but I'm trying to make sure they do.

Either way, I thank you, and I hope you enjoy the other contributions as well!

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humorlife 115M
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2/28/2016 7:15 am

    Quoting  :

I hate awards shows with a passion. Seriously. Being forced to watch 'em is like being forced to chew on tinfoil.

I will distract myself by reading symposium contributions. Thank you for your help in keeping me from the red carpet!

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humorlife 115M
5710 posts
2/28/2016 7:29 am

    Quoting yesmamallthetime:
    Hi my contribution is A Few Firsts And A Joke. Unknown Hope it all goes off without a hitch. Crossing my fingers, legs, arms and toes. Oh and eyes. LOL
Your link is one of the few that went live quickly. What's your secret!

Thank you for your contribution (and no, no secret... the site does this, but the links resolve either on their own or as a result of prodding from IT)... but so far I've liked the tone and variance of the contributions, and I'm looking forward to reading yours!

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lucius8858 62M
847 posts
2/29/2016 6:39 pm

Ugh....SORRY!! Super late "First Time" post to the Symposium....but I hope it is worth the wait and you find it a good read!

It was such a beautiful day yesterday....60 degrees and sunshine in Central PA in February doesn't happen very often...so I was out enjoying it...lol

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humorlife 115M
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2/29/2016 6:57 pm

    Quoting lucius8858:
    Ugh....SORRY!! Super late "First Time" post to the Symposium....but I hope it is worth the wait and you find it a good read!

    It was such a beautiful day yesterday....60 degrees and sunshine in Central PA in February doesn't happen very often...so I was out enjoying it...lol
Heh... if you look through the list of bloggers, you'll see someone else who hasn't contributed yet... and I have -- I mean, that person has -- no business being late!

Happy to include your contribution!

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