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More Kansas Goodness - Concealed Carry Permits  

New2Midlo 54M
653 posts
1/5/2019 12:11 pm

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More Kansas Goodness - Concealed Carry Permits

Returning to our continuing series on 'The Many Wonderful Ways In Which Kansas Sucks', this entry will tackle handgun concealed carry. Just as I did with the piece on religion and dating, I'll preface by saying this isn't intended to become a debate on gun control. Regardless of what end of the spectrum you fall, your opinion is yours and I respect that. Should someone post a 'guns should be outlawed' response, I will ridicule them for not reading this opening paragraph. Onward...

If I'm allowed to carry a concealed handgun in the state I live, I'll have a carry permit (and have for 25 years). Since many readers have likely never applied for a concealed carry permit (CCW), I'll compare and contrast Kansas with the two other states in which I've held permits, Virginia and Pennsylvania. All three are 'shall issue' states, which means they will issue anyone a carry permit, unless a legitimate reason exists to not do so (i.e. felon, domestic abuse, etc.). In other words, the applicant need not justify the need for a permit (i.e. owns a<b> jewelry </font></b>store and carries large sums of cash) to receive one.

Rather than prosthelytize on why I hold a carry permit or any of that nonsense, I'll skip right to the processes. For Kansas, it's a long read.

Step 1 - Complete a mandatory 8 or 9 hour class on handgun proficiency and laws, then pass the shooting practical and a written exam (that literally no one was allowed to fail). Cost $99 and a whole Saturday learning where the trigger was. Do your best to not call out the instructor when his claims of speed and accuracy would make him far better than the pro shooters you know (I shot competitively for 15 years, so I know a few; more on that soon). Also, try to not poke fun at the convoluted process, when he explains it (I failed that one).

Step 2 - Have a passport photo taken. Cost $5

Step 3 - Complete application, affix passport photo, and write two different checks, totaling $132.50.

Step 4 - Submit application, checks, and your cert of completion from the class to the local sheriff's office, in person. While there, get fingerprinted by an attractive deputy.

Step 5 - Wait for your notification of approval to arrive in the mail; it was two months to the day, for me.

Step 6 - Take notification letter to local drivers license center and have your picture taken and receive a temporary permit (that looks like a bar bill). Try to not wonder where the passport photo you submitted went to. Cost $16

Step 7 - Wait for your final final permit to arrive in the mail. That only took a little over a week.

All in, you'll invest $250+, in addition to time and fuel. BTW, the permit is good for 4 years.

Let's compare to Pennsylvania and Virginia. They're similar, so I'll run them down in the same process listing.

Step 1 - Fill out form

Step 2 - Take form and check for $35 (give or take) to sheriff's office. Fingerprints all around.

Step 2A - VA requires you to prove some level of proficiency with a gun, but the hurdle is low. I submitted old score sheets from matches I shot.

Step 2D - I also seem to recall that PA wanted a photo as well, last time I renewed there. But it went directly from you to your permit.

Step 3 - Receive permit in mail in around 2 weeks.

Permits are good for 5 years.

Holy fucking shit! One can't help but think that the folks who came up with the Kansas process were both drooling, inbred morons and completely corrupt. So again, welcome to my shit show...refreshments are available in the lobby.

New2Midlo 54M
1075 posts
1/5/2019 12:11 pm

 Just spreading the love...


littlebbwfairy44 49F

1/5/2019 2:45 pm

 I dont know the process of getting a CCW in Nebraska but taking a wild guess it sucks as bad as Kansas.


benard69 66M/66F  

1/5/2019 3:33 pm

 Well Michigan has a bunch of Kansas mixed in...A bit easier but face it...It's all about getting in line for the money/fees anyways...


pagancountrygirl 66F
Ask me for a photo
6466 posts
1/5/2019 4:06 pm

 When I lived in Alaska (back in the 90s) people carried guns...and I don't think most states even had CCW permits. As 69bignthick said, people lived through it and no one really gave it much thought. Here in Oklahoma I don't carry a gun, but back when I did, it wasn't concealed so I didn't need the CCW.
Pagan
Hmmmm....I know I left that wand around here somewhere!


AlvinBooth 70M
Ask me for a photo
5468 posts
1/5/2019 4:42 pm

 I've had a CWP ... that's what it's called in WA state ... for so long ... early 70's ... that I can't remember what I had to do to get it. I think it was just fill out the paper work get fingerprinted and background checked. And ... of course ... pay a fee and wait a couple of weeks. I've never let it lapse. Get it renewed every 5 years. Dang ... better check to see when it's due.

Back then I carried concealed in banks ... post offices ... damned near everywhere and didn't think anything about it. I don't carry now but nice to know I can.

AB
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