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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
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8/8/2017 8:49 pm
To Circumcise or Not? PSA!!

I guess this article makes a good case for having baby boys circumcised in this day and age. I have four sons and I and my husband (at the time) made the choice to have them circumcised.

It certainly makes a good case for practicing safe sex…..but that of course should be standard practice circumcised or not.

For me personally (no offense to those not)....I prefer a circumcised penis as opposed to one not.
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Uncircumcised Men May Have a 63 Percent Higher Risk of HIV

To circumcise or not to circumcise? According to recent statistics, the number of newborns undergoing the procedure in the U.S. has steadily declined over the past 30 years, with an increasing number of parents opting not to have their baby boys circumcised.

For this reason, it’s more apparent than ever to be aware of this news from the American Society for Microbiology: Certain bacteria found under the foreskin of uncircumcised men could increase their risk of contracting HIV by a staggering 63 percent.

Researchers from George Washington University followed a group of uncircumcised men in Uganda for a period of two years. Bacteria samples were taken from under the foreskins of these men at the beginning of the study and then again after a period of two years
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The researchers then compared the penile bacteria of the 46 uncircumcised men who became infected with HIV with that of the 136 uncircumcised men who didn’t.

Scientific News reports that the findings were quite shocking: The total amount of penile bacteria didn’t differ, but men with higher levels of anaerobic bacteria — meaning they thrive in environments with low oxygen, such as under the foreskin of uncircumcised men — were more likely to have contracted HIV.

In fact, having just 10 times more of this anaerobic bacteria present was directly linked to a 54 to 63 percent increased risk of contracting HIV — and researchers think it’s because of the body’s natural inflammatory response.

“Specific bacteria might cause inflammatory response that would cause the immune cells to congregate in the penis, where they’re more likely to be exposed to the virus,” study co-author, Cindy Liu, told Scientific News. “HIV targets particular immune cells, so recruiting an immune response to the penis might have an unintended consequence — a free ferry ride for the virus into the bloodstream.”

Liu also makes the point that this is something that can be avoided: “While practicing safe sex is still the best HIV-prevention strategy, topical creams that adjust the bacterial balance on the penis might someday help lower the risk of infection.”

It’s not only men and that are affected: According to the study, this dangerous bacteria can be spread through intercourse, potentially leading to an increased HIV risk in women.

Thomas Hope, a cell biologist at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago, believes the removal of the foreskin means the bacteria don’t have the moist, oxygen-starved environment they need to thrive. He also makes the important point that this study shows an association between, rather than a cause-and-effect relationship with, the bacteria and HIV.

So whether you are circumcised or not, the most important thing to remember is to practice good hygiene and safe sex — always.




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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/8/2017 8:50 pm

Have fun everyone....but always play safe!!

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countrymale2016 58M
46 posts
8/8/2017 9:26 pm

i am uncut and clean


Kalbi54 65M
1241 posts
8/8/2017 9:33 pm

Excuse me...research done in Uganda with 182 subjects?

Rather poor environment and extremely small test sample. I think you need to Google "uncircumcised versus circumcised penis research" and ensure you're looking at valid medical research. There was one study pulled by Parent that had done a 40 year study... UTI was a factor but nothing else in terms of STD.

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/8/2017 10:04 pm

    Quoting Kalbi54:
    Excuse me...research done in Uganda with 182 subjects?

    Rather poor environment and extremely small test sample. I think you need to Google "uncircumcised versus circumcised penis research" and ensure you're looking at valid medical research. There was one study pulled by Parent that had done a 40 year study... UTI was a factor but nothing else in terms of STD.

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Ok....I Googled what you suggested and this was one that came up....

What began as a religious procedure has become a highly debated topic among parents and medical professionals. For more than 20 years, the number of circumcisions per year has declined drastically. Today, 55 percent of the 2 million baby boys born each year undergo the procedure, compared to 79 percent in the 1980s.

The reason for the decline can be connected to several issues. For one, Medicaid no longer covers circumcision. In 18 states, this makes it very difficult for families to afford the procedure. Also, according to an article from The Baltimore Sun many parents believe it’s “a painful, unnatural procedure” that can cause sexual and psychological issues. Recent research, however, suggests parents should consider for health and financial reasons.

A new statement from the American Academy of Pediatrics, which will be published in September, found that babies who do not undergo circumcision have a higher risk of developing various health problems. The study suggests those who opt out of the procedure are more likely to develop multiple STDs (including HIV and HPV), penile cancer, and urinary tract infections.

Another study from Johns Hopkins supports the AAP’s research. The study tracked male circumcision related procedures and infections in a group of men throughout their life time. Using this data, researchers were able to predict how a continuous decrease in circumcision would affect male health in the future.

The results showed that a man’s risk of developing HIV and HPV increases by 12.2 percent and 29.1 percent, respectively, and the risk of developing infant urinary tract infections increases by 211.8 percent if they are uncircumcised.

Yikes! And the risk factors don’t stop with men. The study also tracked women who have sexual contact with uncircumcised men, and their risk rates also increased. For these women, the risk of developing HPV increased by 31.2 percent.

In addition to the medical aspect, the study also examined the financial aspect of forgoing circumcision. The research suggests that if male circumcision rate drops to 10 percent, the lifetime healthcare costs for individuals would increase by $407 for men and $43 for women. In comparison to the cost of a circumcision ($254), that’s a big chunk of change. The Johns Hopkins study adds that, in the past 20 years, the decline in male circumcision has cost the United States $2 billion in medical costs.

Despite the findings, the AAP still says the choice to circumcise is ultimately up to the parents. They do suggest, however, that expecting parents should speak with their child’s doctor about the benefits and risks of the procedure, and discuss who will perform the circumcision.

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/8/2017 10:06 pm

And as long as you're playing safe...all should be good!!

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
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8/8/2017 10:08 pm

    Quoting  :

Thanks...playing safe is the most important part, along with good hygiene!

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/8/2017 10:09 pm

Thank you!

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easy_going2014 53M
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8/8/2017 10:16 pm

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thanks for the public service message.

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Cum_Happy 107M
2757 posts
8/8/2017 10:50 pm

Where is the benefit in telling grown men, men who cannot change what they have, that what they have is not best?
Perhaps keeping the context to playing safe, might have been wise. I mean, unless you are speaking to parents of new baby boys or something, I just fail to see your whole point.


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author51 57F  
99912 posts
8/9/2017 1:42 am

I guess it comes down to personal preference of the parents as to getting their sons snipped.I have never had a lover who is not cut so can not compare the two.Great information here though...

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pocogato12 68F  
34176 posts
8/9/2017 4:33 am

Glad you went back and did the Google. One of the things that bothered me was that parents are making the decision. I think the child should be making the decision later on in life when he knows the risks and benefits of both. Once the circumcision id done, he's stuck with it and he had no say in the matter

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let_me_see1 61M  
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8/9/2017 4:44 am

I am glad I am cut and yes, I always use protection. Playing safe is the only way to go. Thank you for the info and good read. I only had daughters, so it was never a choice that I had to make! 😎

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/9/2017 6:12 am

    Quoting Cum_Happy:
    Where is the benefit in telling grown men, men who cannot change what they have, that what they have is not best?
    Perhaps keeping the context to playing safe, might have been wise. I mean, unless you are speaking to parents of new baby boys or something, I just fail to see your whole point.
I wasn't trying to say that a man could change his circumcised or uncircumcised status at this point, nor trying to offend anyone.

The article also makes the point of good hygiene, as well as the playing safe aspect. Hopefully all uncut (and cut) men practice good grooming habits.

As to prospective new parents...in case ya haven't noticed there are younger members on AdultFriendFinder along with us older folks, so perhaps they have something to consider?

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/9/2017 6:18 am

    Quoting author51:
    I guess it comes down to personal preference of the parents as to getting their sons snipped.I have never had a lover who is not cut so can not compare the two.Great information here though...
Yes it does seem to come down to the parent's choice. My ex and I discussed it when we had our first son, along with his pediatrician and decided we felt it was best.

I've always had lovers who were cut as well....so nothing to compare either. But for me...I think I just prefer it that way! Who knows if the right guy comes along....my perspective could change.

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/9/2017 6:48 am

    Quoting  :

Yes...and I think it is most essential that should parents decide against circumcision, they teach their children from an early age proper hygiene...or perhaps their pediatrician could explain.

Proper grooming and the use of condoms should help cut the chances of STD's in both cut and uncut men....and women!

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/9/2017 7:01 am

    Quoting pocogato12:
    Glad you went back and did the Google. One of the things that bothered me was that parents are making the decision. I think the child should be making the decision later on in life when he knows the risks and benefits of both. Once the circumcision id done, he's stuck with it and he had no say in the matter
I understand what you are saying, as a parent I did struggle with the thought of making the decision for my sons. But I think as parents we sometimes do make the deciisions for them, and most are done with what we hope are their best interests at heart! We consulted their pediatrician and felt it was best for them.

Believe it or not I have asked them as adults if they feel resentful for our choice, and would they prefer we had left them uncircumcised-and all have said they were fine with things the way they were. But I do realize some other men may harbor a resentment for having that choice made for them.

I'm not sure how many men would decide to have circumsion as an adult.....it's painful (it seems anyway) at any age. But I guess as an infant the memory fades.....

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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/9/2017 7:12 am

    Quoting let_me_see1:
    I am glad I am cut and yes, I always use protection. Playing safe is the only way to go. Thank you for the info and good read. I only had daughters, so it was never a choice that I had to make! 😎
I'm glad you are happy with your cut status...lol

I agree with you 100% that playing safe is the only way to go!!

I feel comfortable with our decision to have our sons circumcised, it was done with what we feel were their best interests at heart, after doing research and speaking with their pediatrician.

As I stated in another reply...I've asked my sons about it, and they are happy and unresentful for our choice. Trust me...they are outspoken men..if they weren't...they would tell me.....lol

I have seven grandsons and all have been circumcised.....

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Cum_Happy 107M
2757 posts
8/9/2017 9:27 am

    Quoting GreenEyedLady_60:
    I wasn't trying to say that a man could change his circumcised or uncircumcised status at this point, nor trying to offend anyone.

    The article also makes the point of good hygiene, as well as the playing safe aspect. Hopefully all uncut (and cut) men practice good grooming habits.

    As to prospective new parents...in case ya haven't noticed there are younger members on AdultFriendFinder along with us older folks, so perhaps they have something to consider?
All good points, and I stand corrected. For one thing, no, I did not think about the young people here, and that makes perfectly good sense.
So, just goes to show, you have the broader mind. Thanks.


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GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/9/2017 9:41 am

    Quoting Cum_Happy:
    All good points, and I stand corrected. For one thing, no, I did not think about the young people here, and that makes perfectly good sense.
    So, just goes to show, you have the broader mind. Thanks.
Thanks....it's all good!

I wasn't trying to "correct" you necessarily, just offer a different perspective...

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missthee 54F  
4271 posts
8/9/2017 2:34 pm

Testing less than 200 men in a country where public health (and education) is a challenge on many levels, and making general conclusions, doesn't sound like objective/good science to me. Being un/circumcised isn't the real issue, it's poor hygiene, and by association, poor protection from HIV infection. What did the researchers do - intentionally expose the subjects to HIV? No. IMHO, those subjects who had poor hygiene habits to begin with were more likely to practice unsafe sex.

Where I'm from, the majority of the male population is not circumcised. No public health official that I am aware of is advocating for circumcision on the grounds of better HIV prevention.


GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
8/9/2017 8:46 pm

    Quoting missthee:
    Testing less than 200 men in a country where public health (and education) is a challenge on many levels, and making general conclusions, doesn't sound like objective/good science to me. Being un/circumcised isn't the real issue, it's poor hygiene, and by association, poor protection from HIV infection. What did the researchers do - intentionally expose the subjects to HIV? No. IMHO, those subjects who had poor hygiene habits to begin with were more likely to practice unsafe sex.

    Where I'm from, the majority of the male population is not circumcised. No public health official that I am aware of is advocating for circumcision on the grounds of better HIV prevention.
I can only go by what quite a few studies have shown...not just one or two. I don't really think any of the studies or anyone is saying circumcise your son so he won't get HIV.

It is a decision that either parents make for their sons, or allow them to make the decision themselves later in life.

But there seems to be the potential for more health issues with an uncircumcised penis, compared to one that is.

I agree that good hygiene and proper protection are needed on ANY penis!

For Health Reasons:

People usually circumcise the penis because compared with the circumcised penis, men who are not circumcised are at increased risk of many health conditions. It has been reported that:

There is over 12 times the risk of urinary tract infections (UTIs) in uncircumcised infants compared with circumcised infants. What's more, this trend continues into adulthood, with the lifetime cumulated UTI prevalence 1 in 20 for circumcised men, but 1 in 3 for uncircumcised men.

Leaving the penis uncircumcised increases the risk of penile skin inflammation and infection three-fold. Different types of penile inflammation include those of the glans (balanitis), foreskin (posthitis), and both the glans and foreskin (balanoposthitis). Men can also suffer from inability to retract the foreskin (phimosis) and penile constriction due to a tight foreskin that doesn't return following retraction (paraphimosis).

It's estimated that up to 18% uncircumcised boys will get one of the conditions by the age of eight. However, as circumcision removes the foreskin, the incidence of these conditions is much lower in circumcised males.

Penile cancer is more than 20 times less common in circumcised men compared with uncircumcised men. This is a serious disease in which a quarter of patients have died from it and the others need some form of penile amputation. However, it is important to know that penile cancer is rare, with low rates even in uncircumcised men.

When men become sexually active, an intact foreskin can increase 2-4 times the risk of many sexually transmitted infections (STIs), including genital herpes, human papillomavirus (HPV), thrush, chancroid, syphilis, and Trichomonas vaginalis. Lack of circumcision even puts a man's female partner at increased risk of STIs, with the incidence of genital herpes, Trichomonas vaginalis, bacterial vaginosis, sexually transmitted HPV (which causes cervical cancer), and possibly chlamydia up to five times more for women with uncircumcised partners.

**Having a foreskin is the No. 1 risk factor for HIV infection in heterosexual men. Uncircumcised men have 2-8 times the risk of HIV, compared with circumcised men.**

The chances of developing prostate cancer are 50-100% greater in uncircumcised men than those who are circumcised.

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CeriosEros 36M
642 posts
8/9/2017 10:51 pm

It's cosmetic surgery. A condom or the Prep pill are more effective than cutting off a child's foreskin.


GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
9/4/2017 8:38 pm

    Quoting CeriosEros:
    It's cosmetic surgery. A condom or the Prep pill are more effective than cutting off a child's foreskin.
Hmmmm...I think (in my opinion) it's a bit more than just cosmetic surgery, but a condom will definitely help prevent diseases.

Thanks for your comment!

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gooman4 47M  
73 posts
10/18/2017 2:35 am

I hate the bad uncut cocks have gotten over the years, especially from young girls who have only seen cut...do not cut it...do not mutilate it and deprive him of pleasure lost from having a foreskin...use a condom


GreenEyedLady_60 60F  
1909 posts
10/18/2017 6:06 am

    Quoting gooman4:
    I hate the bad uncut cocks have gotten over the years, especially from young girls who have only seen cut...do not cut it...do not mutilate it and deprive him of pleasure lost from having a foreskin...use a condom
Well....since I'm not a man, obviously I have no complete understanding of the male pleasure, that having a foreskin provides. Good hygiene can or will certainly help keep everyday infections away, and a condom (for any cock) will help provide protection from the STD infections.

I thank you for your prospective and comment!

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gooman4 47M  
73 posts
11/19/2017 4:36 am

    Quoting GreenEyedLady_60:
    Well....since I'm not a man, obviously I have no complete understanding of the male pleasure, that having a foreskin provides. Good hygiene can or will certainly help keep everyday infections away, and a condom (for any cock) will help provide protection from the STD infections.

    I thank you for your prospective and comment!
On that note GreenEyed...come here sexy, i have something for you...lol xx


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