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Re: Petition to Stop Transsexuals from Using Female Profiles  

kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 8:15 pm
Re: Petition to Stop Transsexuals from Using Female Profiles


Re: A “Petition to Stop Transsexuals from Using Female Profiles”

North Carolina’s legislature recently voted to bar transexuals from using public bathrooms other than the ones that correspond to their birth gender. This has never been a safety issue. We’ve all been sharing public restrooms with transgendered individuals for years. We’ve all been sharing the same restrooms with homosexuals as well. None of us are threatened by that. The state tried to make a case that they were protecting our from dangerous deviants. Their case is bullshit. Pedophiles overwhelmingly identify as heterosexual males. Most of them are WHITE males, which coincidentally is just the demographic that comprises the majority of both houses of the North Carolina legislature. I’m not implying that the bulk of North Carolina legislators are pedophiles. I’m just pointing out an interesting coincidence.

Other states are now considering bathroom bills, including my home state, Michigan. Another interesting coincidence comes to mind when I think of this- my state’s legislature is majority Republican, just like North Carolina’s! I suppose we have our pedophiles too. Whether they’re in our Capital or not is anyone’s guess. Maybe I should do some deeper research. Our governor is a mass poisoner, so anything’s possible. This ain’t much of a revelation. Wherever civil rights are being rolled back in America, you’ll find conservative Republicans, and you’ll usually find that they’re doing so for two reasons- they’re tossing out hunks of red meat to their base, and they’re trying to create a diversion from real and pressing issues facing both the state and federal governments.

We have increasing inequality of wealth, decreasing economic opportunity, rising healthcare and education costs, wholesale purchase of legislative bodies and corporate control of elections and election coverage in the media. The corporate parties and their puppets in the major media dangle a shiny object, like the rights of gay people to marry, the right of transgendered people to use whichever public washroom fits their gender identity, the right of women to reproductive choice- which by the way is the law of the land- and they distract the voters with these so called issues to divert our attention from the real and tangible problems that we want our governments to address.

And now we’re seeing a cheap and transparent attempt to cash in on trans bashing on this site by a formerly popular blogger who is very much put out that she’s no longer the top blogger. She apparently despairs of ever retaining the top spot on her own merits so she instead is trying to trash and tear down the current top blogger by insisting that the current number one is deceitful about which gender she identifies with. It ain’t so. Our current top blogger identifies as female, and her readers know that. She is honest about being transgender, and her readers know that too. The only deceit going on here is by the blogger who’s pretending to be concerned for our safety.

That blogger posted a “Petition to Stop Transsexuals from Using Female Profiles”. So, in the supposed interest of protecting us from being deceived by another member, the former top blogger is deceiving us herself about her own motives. It’s nothing more than bitterness and sour grapes. It’s mean and spiteful and it can’t work except with the most stupid and bigoted of members. And this is just what certain state governments are doing- trying to create a distraction in the hope that if they tear down the rights of others they can accrue more for themselves. It’s shortsighted, stupid, petty and wrong.



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igotplentytogive 45M
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5/13/2016 8:20 pm

Hear, hear


kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 8:25 pm

Thanks!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 8:27 pm

    Quoting  :

I'm sure you're right. She's never been anything but honest and very pleasant to me. People like her because she's genuine. That comes from her heart, not her genitalia.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 8:27 pm

    Quoting textural22:
    Good post. Spoke up on this on a couple of other threads, since said poster actually contacted me.

    Live and let live, brother.
Good for you!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 8:31 pm

    Quoting TerraNova4Two:
    "It’s shortsighted, stupid, petty and wrong."

    Yup, fully agree! You know from my blog post about defining gender identity that I don't agree with the blogger who posted the 'petition' thing.

    I did vote against it, unfriended her, and blocked her. I'm done with her.
Right on! I generally stay out of squabbles in the blogs, but this has spilled over into something else. It's opportunism at the expense of an innocent individual. I'd be ashamed if I didn't say something about it. It's gone on unanswered by me for long enough. Other bloggers have spoken out- it was past time for me to speak up.

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pandora684 50F
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5/13/2016 8:31 pm

In theory every person on this site is an adult capable of making their own chioces, forming their own opinions and taking their own consequences. They do not need a self appointed protector. I detest people telling other people how to live when it isn't harming them or defenseless others.


kinkyfem73 47F

5/13/2016 8:32 pm

Seriously?! This is news to me as I haven't been around much lately.... I don't follow either of those blogs, so can't really comment. But if "S" truly did that then it is mean and spiteful....

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cinnamon0133 28F

5/13/2016 8:33 pm

Clearly I missed that blog. I agree, it's be. Live and let live is a great way to be

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 8:36 pm

    Quoting pandora684:
    In theory every person on this site is an adult capable of making their own chioces, forming their own opinions and taking their own consequences. They do not need a self appointed protector. I detest people telling other people how to live when it isn't harming them or defenseless others.
Amen. There's plenty of fraud here, but none of it is by the current top blogger. She's honest about who and what she is.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 8:38 pm

    Quoting kinkyfem73:
    Seriously?! This is news to me as I haven't been around much lately.... I don't follow either of those blogs, so can't really comment. But if "S" truly did that then it is mean and spiteful....
It's been going on for a while. She's been beating that drum right and left, and sending out emails threatening watchers not to follow our current number one. She really ought to mind her own blog if she wants to get ahead.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 8:43 pm

    Quoting cinnamon0133:
    Clearly I missed that blog. I agree, it's be. Live and let live is a great way to be
Hell Cinn, I miss most of the shit that goes on around here- on purpose. But this has been going on for a while and it kind of came to a head today. It's an injustice to our top blogger, who never bothers anyone. I had to say something. I did comment on the petition post- I said it was unbelievably petty and just plain stupid. She blocked me.

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VenusRising11 67F
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5/13/2016 9:07 pm

Wow! I didn't know anything about this. I guess I was oblivious.



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tickles4us 58M
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5/13/2016 9:13 pm

I said something about her behavior a while ago on her blog then took her off my watched blog list and haven't missed it a bit.

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5/13/2016 9:13 pm



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kinkyfem73 47F

5/13/2016 9:21 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    It's been going on for a while. She's been beating that drum right and left, and sending out emails threatening watchers not to follow our current number one. She really ought to mind her own blog if she wants to get ahead.
Wow.....she's sending threatening emails?? I really am outta touch on this....not saying thats a bad thing lol!
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dayzeeme 52F
6990 posts
5/13/2016 9:29 pm

wow ... how did I miss this? I THINK I know who you refer to but I pay no attention to either of them. Hmmm.


kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 9:29 pm

    Quoting VenusRising11:
    Wow! I didn't know anything about this. I guess I was oblivious.
Welcome to the club. I miss out on blog politics all the time. And generally I'm not sorry. But this is an egregious wrong being done to an innocent person, and more than that, to an entire group of people who are being scapegoated simply for being different from the majority. It isn't right. The opportunists using slander as their main weapon are despicable and we should say so , loudly and often.

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lookin4funinBC9 60M
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5/13/2016 9:32 pm

Guess you can call old fashion but I think you are asking for trouble with this whole issue. Being a father of daughters and making a mandate of you choose which bathroom you want to you use I can see high school boys saying they feel they are female and using the women's bathroom just to perv! I am from Michigan and I hope our politicians tell Washington to go to hell. We are talking about less than 1% of the population. I am more worried about the perverts doing harm then making the one percent feel comfortable. I am just tired of all this crap you liberals think that is important. We have much more important issues in this world than bathrooms!


kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 9:33 pm

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    She has crossed a line. Is this not discrimination, harassment and abuse under human rights laws? Is it not creating hate here? Is that not against TOU? I find her behaviour disgusting. Calling me a twat like she did is minor. This is too much!!! I do hope everyone reports her emails and posts.
I did report this. The TOU is just a legal angle- but legal angles work. I agree with you. Her behavior IS disgusting. And she needs to shut up. If she wants that top spot, she has to earn it. It ain't hereditary, and she wasn't elected for life. Maybe we should all chip in and buy her a mirror. THAT'S where her problem is.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 9:36 pm

    Quoting tickles4us:
    I said something about her behavior a while ago on her blog then took her off my watched blog list and haven't missed it a bit.

    Jealousy is an ugly creature.
It is. I respect your sense of justice. I made my first comment on her blog today, and she blocked me for it. I expected that. Maybe I'll incorporate it into my signature: "Blocked by the Bully".

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 9:37 pm



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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 9:41 pm

    Quoting kinkyfem73:
    Wow.....she's sending threatening emails?? I really am outta touch on this....not saying thats a bad thing lol!
    I think I'll just stick to Kinkyland....take a few rides.....eat some popcorn....
Kinky- you know me. I make noise about my politics, but I stay out of blog politics. This thing though is just wrong. Transgendered people are not different from me. I will not shut up when they're persecuted. This is nothing more than opportunism at someone else's expense. It's wrong.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 9:43 pm

    Quoting dayzeeme:
    wow ... how did I miss this? I THINK I know who you refer to but I pay no attention to either of them. Hmmm.
Our top blogger isn't at war with anyone. She just blogs like all the rest of us. There's an attempt to drag her into a controversy but she hasn't done anything to deserve it. It's not right, and I felt like I ought to say so.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 9:52 pm

    Quoting lookin4funinBC9:
    Guess you can call old fashion but I think you are asking for trouble with this whole issue. Being a father of daughters and making a mandate of you choose which bathroom you want to you use I can see high school boys saying they feel they are female and using the women's bathroom just to perv! I am from Michigan and I hope our politicians tell Washington to go to hell. We are talking about less than 1% of the population. I am more worried about the perverts doing harm then making the one percent feel comfortable. I am just tired of all this crap you liberals think that is important. We have much more important issues in this world than bathrooms!
What the hell "perverts" are you talking about? Your implication that transgendered people are perverts is pure bullshit. You have a lot to learn! Your daughters are far more at risk from legislators who would deny them full rights as equal citizens than from transgendered people sharing a bathroom with them. They are far more at risk from politicians who would poison them to save a few bucks. They're at risk from a conservative government that would deny them an education so that they can sell the right to teach those daughters to the lowest bidder. To teach them
"creationism" as a science.

I'm glad you mentioned that we have more important issues than which bathroom we piss in. That was exactly my point.

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dayzeeme 52F
6990 posts
5/13/2016 9:54 pm

OMG, she is so full of herself, she completely fails to see the irony about bitching about misrepresenting oneself as something different. And to be that jealous of another 'woman'/person taking over the top blogger spot... for what? Who cares? Does it come with a prize? Does it get you $$$ to be Top Blogger? WTF is the big deal? I will never understand the need to care that much about something so insignificant in the grand scheme of things!
Oh, and her reference to the top blogger using "internet porn" pictures... Sorry, but the minute you post your own naked T and A online, it literally becomes internet porn, so she is no better than the other.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/13/2016 10:17 pm

    Quoting dayzeeme:
    OMG, she is so full of herself, she completely fails to see the irony about bitching about misrepresenting oneself as something different. And to be that jealous of another 'woman'/person taking over the top blogger spot... for what? Who cares? Does it come with a prize? Does it get you $$$ to be Top Blogger? WTF is the big deal? I will never understand the need to care that much about something so insignificant in the grand scheme of things!
    Oh, and her reference to the top blogger using "internet porn" pictures... Sorry, but the minute you post your own naked T and A online, it literally becomes internet porn, so she is no better than the other.
Yeah. What you said.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 10:25 pm

    Quoting LadyLeo1949:
    Like Mac, I steer clear of drama....I am here to enjoy the postings of my fellow bloggers...

    Glad I did not see this blog because I can be quite outspoken when need be.
Leo: I ordinarily stay out of blog quarrels. But this went beyond a blog quarrel when a certain formerly popular blogger began making insinuations about our current top blogger. You know me. I don't care for the top blogger list. But right is right. It's persecution and it's pandering to people's basest instincts. We are all different, and most of us are more than a little weird. We ought to stick together and watch out for each other instead of making unfounded and divisive accusations.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 10:32 pm

    Quoting  :

I knew you and I would see eye to eye on this. The top blogger's followers aren't in the dark. They know what they're reading. The former queen is headed for the bottom, and it's because of her own behavior. How petty and pandering and crude can she get? I MIGHT feel sorry for her, but this is all her own doing. If she had just shown some empathy and understanding she could have turned this into a personal triumph, but she didn't have the have the brains or the sensitivity. She might have congratulated her supposed rivals, but instead she attacks them, every time. How sad. How stupid.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 11:26 pm

    Quoting  :

Anyone can post here as male or female or as transgendered. It's easy as hell. A child could do it, and I'm sure mnany do. Unisex is fine by me. My dog could post here as an orangutan. Who's gonna know, except maybe Trump, whose daddy was an orangutan? I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you implying that a particular blogger is trying to deceive, and are you disagreeing with me about which blogger that is?

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nicelipss66 44F
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5/13/2016 11:41 pm

I have been reading this post and other posts where people is talking about Her. Her petition and Her crazy behavior. Thank you to all of you for the support and speaking out. I just hope people takes notes and remember this. and don't enable or tolerate her lame behavior, by looking the other way, just cause they don't agree with her but are afraid to tell her. What they don't know, is that tomorrow it can be them. cause her pattern and behavior of attacking people over nothing is not new. she will always have something or an excuse to attack her "Competition". Not matter who it is or what it is. cause she wants to be the one and only one.

Ironically. I have gotten lots of support from bloggers that were totally on her side before. Some of her hardcore rabid fans have even sent me emails showing me their support. That was never expected. They truly prove me wrong. and I am glad for that. Some of them have also spoke out in here openly. who would of tho huh. She herself is sending the people to me. What a lesson. I guess they finally came to the conclusion of what is wrong is wrong. The problem is very obvious, and that is HER. Some finally saw it. Others will eventually do and will leave her as well. No doubt.

People need to keep this in mind and have it clear. I done nothing to create her behavior. I been blogging and minding my own business. Just like everyone else in here. But This is NOT her first posts about this matter. I have ignored a bunch of them previous to this one. This is not the first time she attacks people. I am not the first one and I will not be the last one. that is her behavior. It is a very clear pattern.

Also, No one is deceiving anyone but herself. Cause all she wants is the Top Blogger position. and wants to use people and deceive people to gain something at their expense. THE top blogger position that is. That is all her motive. It is not about gender or Wherever. is all about her getting the spot light or what she wants in here. And right now, I have what she wants but she can't have it. She is not capable to earn it anymore. cause is there for the grabs.

Last, My gender is very clear, and is well stated in my profile. My gender, What I am. or how I feel should not be in question in here by anyone else. Period. My profile is there and my blogs are there. Open to the public. I have NOT deceive anyone, is very clear. I am who I said I am. They just gotta read. If they don't want to accept it, that is a different thing. that is their problem. not mine. but don't say that I am lying to people. Besides. if I was at the bottom of the list. and she was on the top, trust me, we would not be having this conversation. so gender is not the issue. the issue is about her gaining the Top Blogger position back. She is using, manipulating and deceiving innocent bloggers for her gain. Hope people is smart enough to see it. and drop her and her boring outdated blog.

Thanks again guys, you support means a lot, especially cause I never ask you to speak out on my defense, but you all did. Thank you.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/13/2016 11:49 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    I have been reading this post and other posts where people is talking about Her. Her petition and Her crazy behavior. Thank you to all of you for the support and speaking out. I just hope people takes notes and remember this. and don't enable or tolerate her lame behavior, by looking the other way, just cause they don't agree with her but are afraid to tell her. What they don't know, is that tomorrow it can be them. cause her pattern and behavior of attacking people over nothing is not new. she will always have something or an excuse to attack her "Competition". Not matter who it is or what it is. cause she wants to be the one and only one.

    Ironically. I have gotten lots of support from bloggers that were totally on her side before. Some of her hardcore rabid fans have even sent me emails showing me their support. That was never expected. They truly prove me wrong. and I am glad for that. Some of them have also spoke out in here openly. who would of tho huh. She herself is sending the people to me. What a lesson. I guess they finally came to the conclusion of what is wrong is wrong. The problem is very obvious, and that is HER. Some finally saw it. Others will eventually do and will leave her as well. No doubt.

    People need to keep this in mind and have it clear. I done nothing to create her behavior. I been blogging and minding my own business. Just like everyone else in here. But This is NOT her first posts about this matter. I have ignored a bunch of them previous to this one. This is not the first time she attacks people. I am not the first one and I will not be the last one. that is her behavior. It is a very clear pattern.

    Also, No one is deceiving anyone but herself. Cause all she wants is the Top Blogger position. and wants to use people and deceive people to gain something at their expense. THE top blogger position that is. That is all her motive. It is not about gender or Wherever. is all about her getting the spot light or what she wants in here. And right now, I have what she wants but she can't have it. She is not capable to earn it anymore. cause is there for the grabs.

    Last, My gender is very clear, and is well stated in my profile. My gender, What I am. or how I feel should not be in question in here by anyone else. Period. My profile is there and my blogs are there. Open to the public. I have NOT deceive anyone, is very clear. I am who I said I am. They just gotta read. If they don't want to accept it, that is a different thing. that is their problem. not mine. but don't say that I am lying to people. Besides. if I was at the bottom of the list. and she was on the top, trust me, we would not be having this conversation. so gender is not the issue. the issue is about her gaining the Top Blogger position back. She is using, manipulating and deceiving innocent bloggers for her gain. Hope people is smart enough to see it. and drop her and her boring outdated blog.

    Thanks again guys, you support means a lot, especially cause I never ask you to speak out on my defense, but you all did. Thank you.
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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 12:10 am

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And THAT'S why I love you, [blog SnuggleBuni41]. Although...I do sometimes wonder what happened to SnuggleBuni40.

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08540Tantrafun 56M  
1080 posts
5/14/2016 12:15 am

B, She does it to get a rise out of people. Disassociate. Ignore. She and Politicians who pimp god and country, are bloviating about a non issue. There is actually a terrifying issue that neither politicians, drama queens on blogs or corporate media talks about.
Intersex.From Environmental Health News: "Eighty-five percent of male small mouth bass tested in the U.S. Northeast had signs of female reproductive parts, according to U.S. Geological Survey and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, They also reported that 27 percent of male large mouth bass in the testing sites were intersex.

Biologist Jo Ellen Hinck's team found intersex males at 34 of 111 sites in eight of nine major river basins, including the Columbia, the Colorado and the Mississippi. The Southeastern U.S. was hit hardest, with intersex bass at every location sampled along the Apalachicola, Savannah and Pee Dee rivers. ".Another USGS biologist, Vicki S. Blazer, has found 100 percent of smallmouth bass to be intersex along parts of the Shenandoah River, where rain washes waste laden with hormones excreted from millions of chickens and cattle into the water. Blazer worries that there's a connection between the intersex findings and another health crisis among bass: weakened immune systems, suspected of killing 80 percent of the smallmouth bass in the Shenandoah in 2004 and 2005."

So male fish is growing eggs in testes and a mass die of is taking place, What is the big deal? people are not fish.

From Scientific American: "For the past two decades scientists have been trying to unravel a mystery in young girls. Breast development, typical of 11-year-olds a generation ago, is now occurring in more seven-year-olds and, rarely, even in three-year-olds... 23 percent of black girls, 15 percent of Hispanic girls and 10 percent of white girls have started to develop breasts by the age of seven."

Researchers have long suspected that exposure to certain compounds known as endocrine disruptors might have a part in triggering early puberty. These substances, among them pesticides, polychlorinated biphenyls and bisphenol A, mimic the effects of estrogen in the body."

BOCA RATON, Fla. (Ivanhoe Newswire) – Gynecomastia is an increasing problem affecting about 40 percent of men in this country. Enlarged male breasts can be caused by weight gain, estrogen, drugs, medications, and steroids.

While these fucktards hyperventilate about transgender bathrooms, they let big business pollute, the air,water and soil. They fuck with our biology with impunity.

Now toddlers are hitting puberty and boys and men are growing boobs. Ignore these idiots and work to get all incumbents out. Our children's future depends on it.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 12:32 am

    Quoting 08540Tantrafun:
    B, She does it to get a rise out of people. Disassociate. Ignore. She and Politicians who pimp god and country, are bloviating about a non issue. There is actually a terrifying issue that neither politicians, drama queens on blogs or corporate media talks about.
    Intersex.From Environmental Health News: "Eighty-five percent of male small mouth bass tested in the U.S. Northeast had signs of female reproductive parts, according to U.S. Geological Survey and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, They also reported that 27 percent of male large mouth bass in the testing sites were intersex.

    Biologist Jo Ellen Hinck's team found intersex males at 34 of 111 sites in eight of nine major river basins, including the Columbia, the Colorado and the Mississippi. The Southeastern U.S. was hit hardest, with intersex bass at every location sampled along the Apalachicola, Savannah and Pee Dee rivers. ".Another USGS biologist, Vicki S. Blazer, has found 100 percent of smallmouth bass to be intersex along parts of the Shenandoah River, where rain washes waste laden with hormones excreted from millions of chickens and cattle into the water. Blazer worries that there's a connection between the intersex findings and another health crisis among bass: weakened immune systems, suspected of killing 80 percent of the smallmouth bass in the Shenandoah in 2004 and 2005."

    So male fish is growing eggs in testes and a mass die of is taking place, What is the big deal? people are not fish.

    From Scientific American: "For the past two decades scientists have been trying to unravel a mystery in young girls. Breast development, typical of 11-year-olds a generation ago, is now occurring in more seven-year-olds and, rarely, even in three-year-olds... 23 percent of black girls, 15 percent of Hispanic girls and 10 percent of white girls have started to develop breasts by the age of seven."

    Researchers have long suspected that exposure to certain compounds known as endocrine disruptors might have a part in triggering early puberty. These substances, among them pesticides, polychlorinated biphenyls and bisphenol A, mimic the effects of estrogen in the body."

    BOCA RATON, Fla. (Ivanhoe Newswire) – Gynecomastia is an increasing problem affecting about 40 percent of men in this country. Enlarged male breasts can be caused by weight gain, estrogen, drugs, medications, and steroids.

    While these fucktards hyperventilate about transgender bathrooms, they let big business pollute, the air,water and soil. They fuck with our biology with impunity.

    Now toddlers are hitting puberty and boys and men are growing boobs. Ignore these idiots and work to get all incumbents out. Our children's future depends on it.
I saw nothing that I could disagree with in your comment- as usual. But I do have questions. Are you telling me that a certain former top blogger is growing eggs in her testes? Is it possible that she is in fact an intersex bass? That she developed breasts at age nine and testicles at ten? O, what a world! I wondered what that fishy smell was.

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KItkat1415 58F  
19980 posts
5/14/2016 2:38 am

    Quoting lookin4funinBC9:
    Guess you can call old fashion but I think you are asking for trouble with this whole issue. Being a father of daughters and making a mandate of you choose which bathroom you want to you use I can see high school boys saying they feel they are female and using the women's bathroom just to perv! I am from Michigan and I hope our politicians tell Washington to go to hell. We are talking about less than 1% of the population. I am more worried about the perverts doing harm then making the one percent feel comfortable. I am just tired of all this crap you liberals think that is important. We have much more important issues in this world than bathrooms!
Lookin,
You are right, there have been reports of MEN (always dressing and acting like men) attacking women in women's rest rooms, and that should not be allowed at all. You are not right that MEN will be able to use protections meant for all people who identify as female using the women's room to perv on your wife or children.
I do understand you are concerned. I really do. I am not putting down that concern at all. I happen to disagree with your stance. There has NEVER been a recorded instance of a MAN passing as a woman attacking women or children in the women's room. It could have happened before now, before the supposed "liberals that you are accusing of taking the focus off more important things, to focus on equal right for people that amount to less than 1% of our population.", but it has not happened. As in ever.

I am somewhat bemused that you are accusing liberals of taking the focus off more important issues with this equal rights issue. Just let people who identify as female use the women's rooms LIKE THEY ALWAYS HAVE IN THE PAST (caps for emphasis, not yelling) and the people who insist on their "religious laws" need to stop imposing their version of religion on the rest of us. In my opinion, those people who try to pass unenforceable laws are Tami g the focus off more important issues like solving hunger, getting jobs increased to lower unemployment, preserving clean water and air for the population, and education for our citizens.
I respectfully hope you understand I simply disagree with you, but I value and respect your feelings.
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spunkycumfun 60M/65F  
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5/14/2016 2:54 am

Very well said.
It took me a while to what was going on - when it comes to blogland politics, I'm usually quite slow to pick things up. But that petition was posted with hatred and gives blogland a bad name.
There is no need for a self-appointed guardian to police her very warped and narcisstic sense of moral standards in blogland or anywhere else.


myelin36 49F
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5/14/2016 3:17 am

I think it's wrong for anyone to make a poll then delete and block any commenter who respectfully disagrees. I never commented on her blog until yesterday but it's very clear that her behavior is violating the TOU agreement. I encourage anyone as I have done to report any behavior that attempts to demean or harass others.

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lookin4funinBC9 60M
1385 posts
5/14/2016 4:39 am

Maybe you should read it again the perverts are the boys men who would claim they are female just to get into the bathrooms.


08540Tantrafun 56M  
1080 posts
5/14/2016 5:22 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    I saw nothing that I could disagree with in your comment- as usual. But I do have questions. Are you telling me that a certain former top blogger is growing eggs in her testes? Is it possible that she is in fact an intersex bass? That she developed breasts at age nine and testicles at ten? O, what a world! I wondered what that fishy smell was.
The first place they found intersex fish is in Potomac river( her home town), in 2003. "Is it possible that she is in fact an intersex bass?" No I think in Washington D.C area, it is turning their brains into that of jackasses.It has also changed their anatomy and gives them frequent diarrhea thru the mouth. Also many that have a pussy are turning into dicks and the one with dicks are turning into manginas, who bend over for their corporate sugarddies .

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tymeflyz2fast 70M

5/14/2016 6:17 am

Very well stated. Her vendetta needs to come to a screeching halt.


LiveLifeDoU 65F  
2201 posts
5/14/2016 6:49 am

I also usually try to stay out of drama on this site. I think I lost a good blogging friend because I did not care about the blogland top blogger list drama shit, nor did I really want to hear about it at length.
However, this petition showed up on my main page and caught my eye. I have deep feelings for ppl who are not mainstream...guess it's the mom in me lol They are perfectly able to defend themselves but I feel compelled to stand up next to them, show my support. So this was one time I had to put my two cents in, so I posted on her blog...twice. She did respond to my posts in a civil manner tho I don't know if the facts she stated in her response to me are accurate or not. However, she did not acknowledge the main point of my response.
There are a lot of fakes on this site. She seems to have a lot of time on her hands. I suggested that she use that time to find fake pics on profiles and report them so they get banned instead of starting such a petition as this one. In my opinion, that would be a better use of her time but that's just me.
Thanks for posting this blog. Hugs.


Great_eight 54M
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5/14/2016 7:01 am

Thank you for posting this. The former top blogger attacks anyone who she perceives as a threat to her position at the top. It occurred when she attacked others for posting images obtained from the internet and now she is focused on the gender of the top blogger.

She has tried to make her blog for friends only and that didn't work and she now presents as a person who wants to ensure that the members of blogland don't get fooled

She has every right to be here but she has no right to spew hatred. I am glad that people see her for what she is and I hope she fades into the background. I am glad people are standing up for fun, positive blogging and trying to lessen the hate and manipulative behavior.


Annie_34 61T
5945 posts
5/14/2016 8:40 am

Bonjour Kzoopair
Une nouvelle guerre en dentelle du blog a t'elle commencer ? .
J'ai connu un monde où être travestie était puni par la loi , puis j'ai crus que c'était fini et maintenant ça recommence .

L'Épitaphe de Villon ou " Ballade des pendus "
Frères humains qui après nous vivez,
N'ayez pas vos cœurs durcis à notre égard,
Car, si pitié de nous pauvres avez,
Dieu en aura plus tôt de vous merci.
Vous nous voyez attachés ici, cinq, six :
Quant à notre chair, que nous avons trop nourrie,
Elle est depuis longtemps dévorée et pourrie,
Et nous, les os, devenons cendre et poussière.
De notre malheur, que personne ne se moque,
Mais priez Dieu que tous nous veuille absoudre!

Si nous vous appelons frères, vous n'en devez
Avoir dédain, bien que nous ayons été tués
Par justice. Toutefois vous savez
Que tous les hommes n'ont pas l'esprit bien rassis.
Excusez-nous, puisque nous sommes trépassés,
Auprès du fils de la Vierge Marie,
De façon que sa grâce ne soit pas tarie pour nous,
Et qu'il nous préserve de la foudre infernale.
Nous sommes morts, que personne ne nous tourmente,
Mais priez Dieu que tous nous veuille absoudre!

La pluie nous a lessivés et lavés
Et le soleil nous a séchés et noircis;
Pies, corbeaux nous ont crevé les yeux,
Et arraché la barbe et les sourcils.
Jamais un seul instant nous ne sommes assis;
De ci de là, selon que le vent tourne,
Il ne cesse de nous ballotter à son gré,
Plus becquetés d'oiseaux que dés à coudre.
Ne soyez donc de notre confrérie,
Mais priez Dieu que tous nous veuille absoudre!

Prince Jésus qui a puissance sur tous,
Fais que l'enfer n'ait sur nous aucun pouvoir :
N'ayons rien à faire ou à solder avec lui.
Hommes, ici pas de plaisanterie,
Mais priez Dieu que tous nous veuille absoudre.
François Villon



Hello Kzoopair
A new blog Lace war you start it? .
I experienced a world where being transvestite was punished by the law, then I thought it was over and now it begins again.

The Epitaph of Villon or "Ballad of the Hanged"
Brother human beings who live after us,
Do not be hardened your hearts to us,
For if we pity the poor have,
God will sooner you thank you.
You see attached here, five, six:
As for our flesh, we too fed,
It has long been eaten and rotten,
And we, the bones become dust and ashes.
Our misfortune, nobody laughs,
But pray God that all we want to absolve!

If you call us brothers, you must
Have disdain, although we killed
By justice. But you know
That all men do not much mind stale.
Excuse us, since we are dead,
With the son of the Virgin Mary,
So that his grace is not dried up for us,
And it preserves us from the infernal lightning.
We are dead, that no torments us,
But pray God that all we want to absolve!

The rain has washed us and washed
And the sun dried us and blackened;
Magpies, crows punctured our eyes,
And ripped the beard and eyebrows.
Never for a moment we are sitting;
Here and there, as the wind turns,
He keeps us bobbing at its option,
More pecked birds than thimbles.
So do our brotherhood,
But pray God that all we want to absolve!

Prince Jesus has power over all,
Spread the hell did us no power:
Have nothing to do or to settle with him.
Men, here no joke,
But pray God that all of us want absolution.
François Villon





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BiggLala 48F  
28759 posts
5/14/2016 8:40 am

Personal opinion aside, it's interesting to me that the 'formerly top blogger' goes to such lengths to try to tell people on here what to do, whose blog they should/should not read, or what to believe. I don't get it....it's blogging ffs (I recognize, however, that this issue is not mine to 'get' ). My question is, unless we have personal, direct interaction with someone we meet here, what does it matter what other people do on a social website (good or bad)? Particularly, if there is no real intent to meet that person to have that personal, direct interaction. If there is 'real' intent to meet a person, the conversations that go on between those people is no business of anyone else. In the grand scheme of things, what impact does someone's activities on here have on MY life...or the life of said 'formerly top blogger'?

All of it is very interesting to me to watch, which is why I keep my popcorn handy. And, yes, I will keep my opinion on the rest of this to myself because it doesn't have anything to do with how I treat people when interact with them (which is with kindness and respect at all times, even if/when I might disagree with them on a particular topic).

That's all I have to say about that.

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5/14/2016 8:57 am

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sweet_VM 62F
81036 posts
5/14/2016 9:01 am

KZ you always call it as you see it. Well said. This kind of drama I always stay far away from on this site. If they want to bash each other out go right ahead.
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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/14/2016 9:33 am

    Quoting joisygirl:
    I've already told you, but I'll say it again, it's a good post Bill. You've made some good points.

    Such silly things for people to trouble themselves over.
The wrestling over who's top blogger is generally pretty silly, but this time it's different. An innocent person is being slandered and there's an attempt to ostracize her for her gender identity. She's been honest and straightforward and I needed to say so.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 9:38 am

    Quoting spunkycumfun:
    Very well said.
    It took me a while to what was going on - when it comes to blogland politics, I'm usually quite slow to pick things up. But that petition was posted with hatred and gives blogland a bad name.
    There is no need for a self-appointed guardian to police her very warped and narcisstic sense of moral standards in blogland or anywhere else.

Thanks Spunky. It was making me angry to see what was happening. Another blogger posted about this vile petition- she wrote a HELL of a good post about it. It just seemed like I was past due to say what I think about it. I don't care for blog politics in general and they mostly look pretty funny to me, but this crossed a line of honesty and decency.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 9:42 am

    Quoting myelin36:
    I think it's wrong for anyone to make a poll then delete and block any commenter who respectfully disagrees. I never commented on her blog until yesterday but it's very clear that her behavior is violating the TOU agreement. I encourage anyone as I have done to report any behavior that attempts to demean or harass others.
I broke my own cherry by commenting on her post yesterday. I expected my comment to be deleted and I expected to be blocked. As was pointed out to me by a friend, the only way to say what I think about this meanness is to write my own post. So here we are!

I did lodge a complaint with the site- largely due to your own example. Thanks!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 9:58 am

    Quoting  :

I'm here to have fun too. So is our current top blogger. I thought it was time to say something in her defense.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:02 am

    Quoting  :

Thanks Oral. There's plenty for liberals and conservatives to agree about if we'd avoid the wedge issues and tackle what both sides concur on. We could get a hell of a lot done.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:05 am

    Quoting  :

She might have blocked you because you visit my blog, Sassy. She's been known to do that. I was surprised I wasn't blocked yesterday- but I am now!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/14/2016 10:15 am

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    It makes me really wonder, would she behave this way in real life???

    Is it normal to spend 12 weeks annoyed as hell, day in, day out, at what sex a person is, who you aren't even interacting with in any way?

    Does she really not have anything better to focus on in her life? Like GET LAID.....??
    I know we've had this conversation before, Kzoo and you absolutely refused to sacrifice yourself for the good of Blogland....but really SOMEBODY out there must be 'manly enough' and want to 'give her a good time'.....


Yeah- you're right. I refused to take a hit for the team. I find her antics so unpleasant that she's wholly unattractive.

I would guess that she's every bit as small and nasty in real life too. This particular trick has just gone on a bit too long and is especially nasty, even for her. If she wants to gather a posse of bigots and misogynists I guess that's her right, but she needs to lay off her current target. It's past time to move on, get over it and adjust herself to the idea of being an also ran and a has been. That's all been her own doing- as ye sow, also shall ye reap.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/14/2016 10:21 am

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    Oh you guys....really....it's absolutely not about her being Top Blogger.....she doesn't care about that anymore,....

    Oh, she does, scrap that.....

    Well, maybe it's about protecting the morals of the male population on here, the ones who want to cheat and get pissy about women not meeting them for nsa encounters, even though she has written she has no interest in such herself.....

    Ah, a case of do as I say, not what I do.....

    She isn't bribing the male newbies (if anyone has an example where she has become a fan of a Standard Female, let us know) and then messaging them to tell them not to interact with the Top Blogger.....

    Oh wait, she is....scrap that one too.....

    Well, she wouldn't remotely think about MISLEADING folks with her profile pics....such as, using ones from her past and slimmer days, as the first everyone sees when she's as thumbnails wherever she comments, despite a zillion updates....

    Yep, apparently so.....

    Well, I preferred your other one you thought of, "Blocked by BullyMcBullshit"


It's all silliness until it isn't anymore, and as much as I didn't want to post about this, enough is enough. It didn't even matter if anyone agreed, I had to say what I think of it.

Actually I was thinking of Parliament and Congress when Bully McBullshit came to mind, but it fits her to a Tee, doesn't it?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/14/2016 10:28 am

    Quoting lookin4funinBC9:
    Maybe you should read it again the perverts are the boys men who would claim they are female just to get into the bathrooms.
Please describe to me who is preventing perverts from entering public washrooms right now? How will anyone be screened when entering a bathroom? What you claim to be frightened of is as possible before and after discriminatory laws are passed. No net change in safety for you and yours, but an innocent segment of the population WILL be endangered by being forced to use male washrooms while they present as females.

Your argument makes no sense. It's not much different from restrictive voter ID laws to prevent nonexistent voter fraud, or laws banning Sharia law when there is no possibility of such a thing happening. It's a wedge issue meant to divide us politically and having no basis in fact.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:29 am

    Quoting 08540Tantrafun:
    The first place they found intersex fish is in Potomac river( her home town), in 2003. "Is it possible that she is in fact an intersex bass?" No I think in Washington D.C area, it is turning their brains into that of jackasses.It has also changed their anatomy and gives them frequent diarrhea thru the mouth. Also many that have a pussy are turning into dicks and the one with dicks are turning into manginas, who bend over for their corporate sugarddies .
It WAS instructive that the first intersex fish were seen in the Potomac!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:32 am

    Quoting leeman2017:
    There wasn't an issue until our officials created one so they can pretend to fix it-- we were doing fine with out their interference. World turning to shit and people are worried about which bath room to use
I agree that it's a non-issue. It's just a smokescreen to cover up the highway robbery that goes on in statehouses. America is ostensibly about protecting individual rights, not about searching for people to single out and persecute.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:34 am

    Quoting tymeflyz2fast:
    Very well stated. Her vendetta needs to come to a screeching halt.
Thanks, Timeflyz. This isn't what i normally post about, and I don't like it. But it's so unfair I'd have been chickenshit to keep quiet.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/14/2016 10:38 am

    Quoting LiveLifeDoU:
    I also usually try to stay out of drama on this site. I think I lost a good blogging friend because I did not care about the blogland top blogger list drama shit, nor did I really want to hear about it at length.
    However, this petition showed up on my main page and caught my eye. I have deep feelings for ppl who are not mainstream...guess it's the mom in me lol They are perfectly able to defend themselves but I feel compelled to stand up next to them, show my support. So this was one time I had to put my two cents in, so I posted on her blog...twice. She did respond to my posts in a civil manner tho I don't know if the facts she stated in her response to me are accurate or not. However, she did not acknowledge the main point of my response.
    There are a lot of fakes on this site. She seems to have a lot of time on her hands. I suggested that she use that time to find fake pics on profiles and report them so they get banned instead of starting such a petition as this one. In my opinion, that would be a better use of her time but that's just me.
    Thanks for posting this blog. Hugs.
Thank you for your comment, and hugs back! As I mentioned in other responses, this isn't what I want to spend my own time on. It's not what I want to post about. But I do have principles. If I don't speak up about them then what the hell good are they? It was past time to say something.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:42 am

    Quoting Great_eight:
    Thank you for posting this. The former top blogger attacks anyone who she perceives as a threat to her position at the top. It occurred when she attacked others for posting images obtained from the internet and now she is focused on the gender of the top blogger.

    She has tried to make her blog for friends only and that didn't work and she now presents as a person who wants to ensure that the members of blogland don't get fooled

    She has every right to be here but she has no right to spew hatred. I am glad that people see her for what she is and I hope she fades into the background. I am glad people are standing up for fun, positive blogging and trying to lessen the hate and manipulative behavior.
Well, thank YOU for stopping by and saying so! I reckon she even has a right to spew hatred, but she's gonna get taken to task for it, or else we have no spines at all. I can't see this as doing anything but backfiring on her. She missed a chance to be gracious to those she sees as competitors. She missed a golden opportunity to make this a personal triumph of grace and magnanimity.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:43 am

    Quoting  :

Thanks, eMAN!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:46 am

    Quoting Annie_34:
    Bonjour Kzoopair
    Une nouvelle guerre en dentelle du blog a t'elle commencer ? .
    J'ai connu un monde où être travestie était puni par la loi , puis j'ai crus que c'était fini et maintenant ça recommence .

    L'Épitaphe de Villon ou " Ballade des pendus "
    Frères humains qui après nous vivez,
    N'ayez pas vos cœurs durcis à notre égard,
    Car, si pitié de nous pauvres avez,
    Dieu en aura plus tôt de vous merci.
    Vous nous voyez attachés ici, cinq, six :
    Quant à notre chair, que nous avons trop nourrie,
    Elle est depuis longtemps dévorée et pourrie,
    Et nous, les os, devenons cendre et poussière.
    De notre malheur, que personne ne se moque,
    Mais priez Dieu que tous nous veuille absoudre!

    Si nous vous appelons frères, vous n'en devez
    Avoir dédain, bien que nous ayons été tués
    Par justice. Toutefois vous savez
    Que tous les hommes n'ont pas l'esprit bien rassis.
    Excusez-nous, puisque nous sommes trépassés,
    Auprès du fils de la Vierge Marie,
    De façon que sa grâce ne soit pas tarie pour nous,
    Et qu'il nous préserve de la foudre infernale.
    Nous sommes morts, que personne ne nous tourmente,
    Mais priez Dieu que tous nous veuille absoudre!

    La pluie nous a lessivés et lavés
    Et le soleil nous a séchés et noircis;
    Pies, corbeaux nous ont crevé les yeux,
    Et arraché la barbe et les sourcils.
    Jamais un seul instant nous ne sommes assis;
    De ci de là, selon que le vent tourne,
    Il ne cesse de nous ballotter à son gré,
    Plus becquetés d'oiseaux que dés à coudre.
    Ne soyez donc de notre confrérie,
    Mais priez Dieu que tous nous veuille absoudre!

    Prince Jésus qui a puissance sur tous,
    Fais que l'enfer n'ait sur nous aucun pouvoir :
    N'ayons rien à faire ou à solder avec lui.
    Hommes, ici pas de plaisanterie,
    Mais priez Dieu que tous nous veuille absoudre.
    François Villon



    Hello Kzoopair
    A new blog Lace war you start it? .
    I experienced a world where being transvestite was punished by the law, then I thought it was over and now it begins again.

    The Epitaph of Villon or "Ballad of the Hanged"
    Brother human beings who live after us,
    Do not be hardened your hearts to us,
    For if we pity the poor have,
    God will sooner you thank you.
    You see attached here, five, six:
    As for our flesh, we too fed,
    It has long been eaten and rotten,
    And we, the bones become dust and ashes.
    Our misfortune, nobody laughs,
    But pray God that all we want to absolve!

    If you call us brothers, you must
    Have disdain, although we killed
    By justice. But you know
    That all men do not much mind stale.
    Excuse us, since we are dead,
    With the son of the Virgin Mary,
    So that his grace is not dried up for us,
    And it preserves us from the infernal lightning.
    We are dead, that no torments us,
    But pray God that all we want to absolve!

    The rain has washed us and washed
    And the sun dried us and blackened;
    Magpies, crows punctured our eyes,
    And ripped the beard and eyebrows.
    Never for a moment we are sitting;
    Here and there, as the wind turns,
    He keeps us bobbing at its option,
    More pecked birds than thimbles.
    So do our brotherhood,
    But pray God that all we want to absolve!

    Prince Jesus has power over all,
    Spread the hell did us no power:
    Have nothing to do or to settle with him.
    Men, here no joke,
    But pray God that all of us want absolution.
    François Villon




I didn't start anything. I want to see it stop. Other bloggers here have spoken up about this and it was time for me to do the same.

Je n'ai commencé rien. Je veux le voir s'arrêter. D'autres bloggers ici ont parlé vers le haut au sujet de ceci et il était temps pour que je fasse la même chose.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:52 am

    Quoting BiggLala:
    Personal opinion aside, it's interesting to me that the 'formerly top blogger' goes to such lengths to try to tell people on here what to do, whose blog they should/should not read, or what to believe. I don't get it....it's blogging ffs (I recognize, however, that this issue is not mine to 'get' ). My question is, unless we have personal, direct interaction with someone we meet here, what does it matter what other people do on a social website (good or bad)? Particularly, if there is no real intent to meet that person to have that personal, direct interaction. If there is 'real' intent to meet a person, the conversations that go on between those people is no business of anyone else. In the grand scheme of things, what impact does someone's activities on here have on MY life...or the life of said 'formerly top blogger'?

    All of it is very interesting to me to watch, which is why I keep my popcorn handy. And, yes, I will keep my opinion on the rest of this to myself because it doesn't have anything to do with how I treat people when interact with them (which is with kindness and respect at all times, even if/when I might disagree with them on a particular topic).

    That's all I have to say about that.
What does it matter? It matters because an innocent blogger is being maligned. She can stand up for herself, to be sure, but how am I gonna feel watching her stand there alone? I didn't pick this argument- it was there and I kept bumping into it. I could choose to keep my mouth shut, but then when it's my turn to be slandered, who'll stick up for me?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 10:58 am

    Quoting  :

Who among us practices "pure honesty"? Our top blogger is honest about who and what she is. I hardly think she's deceived someone because they missed one of the details. None of this would be an issue at all if not for another blogger's jealousy and spitefulness. She's more than said her piece and now she's simply beating a dead horse.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 11:01 am

    Quoting HermanG67:
    I believe in treating EVERYONE as I would like to be treated by them
Me too. And if I act like an asshole I should expect to be treated like one. This whole thing is being shoved up our asses, and it's time for it to stop. You can ignore a boil for a long time, but sooner or later you're gonna have to lance it.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 11:03 am

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    KZ you always call it as you see it. Well said. This kind of drama I always stay far away from on this site. If they want to bash each other out go right ahead.
    Everyone has a right to blog on here no matter what sex or gender they are. If you don't want to follow some people just ignore them. hugssssssssss V
Thank you V. I didn't want to make noise about this, but the noise was being made even though I was silent about it. it was time to holler "Bullshit!"

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BiggLala 48F  
28759 posts
5/14/2016 12:08 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    What does it matter? It matters because an innocent blogger is being maligned. She can stand up for herself, to be sure, but how am I gonna feel watching her stand there alone? I didn't pick this argument- it was there and I kept bumping into it. I could choose to keep my mouth shut, but then when it's my turn to be slandered, who'll stick up for me?
Actually, with all due respect Bill, I think you made my point. My full question was, "...unless we have personal, direct interaction with someone we meet here, what does it matter what other people do on a social website (good or bad)?" I understand the current 'top blogger' is being maligned. I think my question, and point, remains the same. However, I will rephrase it...the people who've directly and/or personally interacted with the 'current top blogger', to have gotten to know her...know BETTER than what's being said about her. That is her defense, IMO.

Perhaps, I'm oversimplifying this. I realize there are so many levels to this type of situation, and people's behavior, at work here than who does what on a social networking site.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 12:18 pm

    Quoting BiggLala:
    Actually, with all due respect Bill, I think you made my point. My full question was, "...unless we have personal, direct interaction with someone we meet here, what does it matter what other people do on a social website (good or bad)?" I understand the current 'top blogger' is being maligned. I think my question, and point, remains the same. However, I will rephrase it...the people who've directly and/or personally interacted with the 'current top blogger', to have gotten to know her...know BETTER than what's being said about her. That is her defense, IMO.

    Perhaps, I'm oversimplifying this. I realize there are so many levels to this type of situation, and people's behavior, at work here than who does what on a social networking site.
OK. I think we're on the same page now. I misunderstood what point you were making. And we agree.

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mature_951 59F  
3349 posts
5/14/2016 2:42 pm

"It’s shortsighted, stupid, petty and wrong." - absolutely!!
not that I care, I never even paid attention to that trivial stuff about the top female blogger

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sexysixties2 72F  
39002 posts
5/14/2016 2:58 pm

I have been sitting with this post open in front of me for over an hour unsure of how to say what I want to say without being banned by the site. I had tried to stay out of this but enough is enough. This is just a repeat performance of so much that has happened in the past and it is finally time to put an end to it.

I am not saying that there aren't faults on both sides BUT harassing someone on account of their expressed gender is just wrong it lacks empathy and understanding. It must be tough enough feeling that you are not the gender assigned to you at birth without having small minded people attacking your choice to be the person everything in your being screams you are. Then to have someone put up a poll and delete any dissenting comments....em paranoid is the word that comes to mind.


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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 4:33 pm

    Quoting mature_951:
    "It’s shortsighted, stupid, petty and wrong." - absolutely!!
    not that I care, I never even paid attention to that trivial stuff about the top female blogger
Well...I don't much care about the list either. But not everyone who climbs that list acts like a childish asshole, so it ain't the list itself that's evil. We all get to choose if we're going to exercise some self control or not. I thought- and I still think- that our current top blogger was being unfairly maligned. And that damned dumb assed petition put me over the edge

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 4:40 pm

    Quoting sexysixties2:
    I have been sitting with this post open in front of me for over an hour unsure of how to say what I want to say without being banned by the site. I had tried to stay out of this but enough is enough. This is just a repeat performance of so much that has happened in the past and it is finally time to put an end to it.

    I am not saying that there aren't faults on both sides BUT harassing someone on account of their expressed gender is just wrong it lacks empathy and understanding. It must be tough enough feeling that you are not the gender assigned to you at birth without having small minded people attacking your choice to be the person everything in your being screams you are. Then to have someone put up a poll and delete any dissenting comments....em paranoid is the word that comes to mind.

I know what you mean. You don't want to dignify it by talking about it, but it's gotta be said, sometime, by someone. This shit had gone far enough. I did this post on the spur of the moment after mulling it over for a few hours. It just seemed like it was time to put up or shut up. It was that stupid petition that finally set me off. I don't give a shit if she did delete my comment or that she blocked me- I'm in good company!

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lookin4funinBC9 60M
1385 posts
5/14/2016 7:48 pm

I should really know better then to comment on a liberal blog post. Sorry I said something about protecting our kids. I have concerns and a thought but I am wrong because I don't think or agree with you. I do truly believe that transgender can use what ever bathroom they choose. I just hope people and our politicians look at what can be bad about this and think about the negatives that could come from this. This is my last comment about this because no matter what I say I am wrong because I do not agree or think like you! Where is my freedom of speech because I don't agree with how you think? Hope you have a great day.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/14/2016 8:19 pm

    Quoting lookin4funinBC9:
    I should really know better then to comment on a liberal blog post. Sorry I said something about protecting our kids. I have concerns and a thought but I am wrong because I don't think or agree with you. I do truly believe that transgender can use what ever bathroom they choose. I just hope people and our politicians look at what can be bad about this and think about the negatives that could come from this. This is my last comment about this because no matter what I say I am wrong because I do not agree or think like you! Where is my freedom of speech because I don't agree with how you think? Hope you have a great day.
Stop whining. No one shut you up or denied your your right to speak. No- I don't agree with you. Where is it written that I'm obligated to say I agree with you? If I had blocked you you might have a complaint. The fact that you're back here making comments might be an indication to you that you haven't been blocked. You took part in a discussion- stop crying because people disagreed with you.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/14/2016 9:43 pm

    Quoting  :

It's a great picture Mac. And you can post anything you want on my posts, my friend. I trust your judgment.

The bathroom thing is a bullshit issue, and the bullying campaign here was equally bullshit. That damned petition really lit me up.

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wickedeasy 70F  
32407 posts
5/15/2016 10:05 am

I guess i'm not in the loop here but I've been in the GLBT community forever.

so thanks for your post - I said something similar in one of mine not too long ago.

and how exactly would a TR post if not as the gender they are?

grrr

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/15/2016 10:25 am

    Quoting wickedeasy:
    I guess i'm not in the loop here but I've been in the GLBT community forever.

    so thanks for your post - I said something similar in one of mine not too long ago.

    and how exactly would a TR post if not as the gender they are?

    grrr
Personally, it's perfectly all right by me if trans members post as M, F, or T. I just don't care. When I see a member listed as M but looking F, I have a clue that there may be some ambiguity there. And I'm not a stickler about pigeonholing people regarding gender. Plenty of folks are ambiguous sexually. It isn't cut and dried, black and white, male or female. And it doesn't have to be. We aren't any of us all about our sex or our gender.

Something we have a chance to do on this particular site is learn about other folks and their sexuality. It's not always a simple issue, but it also isn't everything. I've made transgendered friends on this site that I never would have had the chance to know otherwise, and they've treated me wonderfully. The love I feel for them isn't about their genitals or their labels.

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sweet_VM 62F
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5/15/2016 11:18 am

KZ you sure did get a lot of views and great comments! Well said my friend hugsssssssssssss V

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/15/2016 11:32 am

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    KZ you sure did get a lot of views and great comments! Well said my friend hugsssssssssssss V
Sweet V! I was happy with how I was doing blogging here before, but after you pimped my blog it got busy in here. You really are one of the most generous people I know, online or off.

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NaughtyInSO 109F
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5/15/2016 11:43 am

"It’s shortsighted, stupid, petty and wrong."

Yes, it is true. It is also vindictive and petty.

As far as certain legislators pushing for this ridiculous and bigoted laws, I completely agree with you - they try divert our attention from really important and serious issues. It's easier to create ludicrous laws than try to find solution for failing economy.

As far as ex-top blogger, I'm once again late to the party. I haven't read her "petition". But then again, I don't read her blog.
She seems to be consistent in her schemes and plots to hold on to her "status". This isn't first time.

This competition is extremely unhealthy. All catfights and backstabbing, all accusations and now 'petitions'... all this makes me sick. It would be much healthier for Blogland to get rid of this stupid list.

Perhaps, another petition is in order - petition to stop bigotry and discrimination by gender. Just a thought....

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/15/2016 11:58 am

    Quoting NaughtyInSO:
    "It’s shortsighted, stupid, petty and wrong."

    Yes, it is true. It is also vindictive and petty.

    As far as certain legislators pushing for this ridiculous and bigoted laws, I completely agree with you - they try divert our attention from really important and serious issues. It's easier to create ludicrous laws than try to find solution for failing economy.

    As far as ex-top blogger, I'm once again late to the party. I haven't read her "petition". But then again, I don't read her blog.
    She seems to be consistent in her schemes and plots to hold on to her "status". This isn't first time.

    This competition is extremely unhealthy. All catfights and backstabbing, all accusations and now 'petitions'... all this makes me sick. It would be much healthier for Blogland to get rid of this stupid list.

    Perhaps, another petition is in order - petition to stop bigotry and discrimination by gender. Just a thought....
Our politics are different, you and I, but they're also very much the same. We agree about so much that really matters.

The political aspect of this I had no problem writing about. But on the level of this site, where you have to confront folks you know with something unpleasant, it's another matter, and can be harder to do. I didn't want to stir the pot or appear to take sides in a blog war or site quarrel. The manipulating and bullying has gone on for a long time- before I even joined the site. And there were other Blog Queens before, and I reckon there will be others again.

This petition was just wrong in so many ways that I had to say so if I was gonna be able to look at my face in the mirror. I'm not "involved" in the dispute, but it looks to me like one of the parties is also not exactly involved either. She's just minding her own business and trying to have fun, and she got popular. It made her a target for the jealousy and spite of a very small minded woman. That small minded woman needed to be called out for her behavior.

This thing isn't making a mountain out of a molehill, like a lot of blog spats are. When you're being unfairly maligned it's a very big deal. I'm pleased that so many bloggers stepped up and said so. It makes me feel good about people!

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Its_up_to_me 75F
52 posts
5/15/2016 8:13 pm

You know he hasnt made our country any better in the las 8yrs so hes stirring up shit before he gets out


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/15/2016 8:33 pm

    Quoting Its_up_to_me:
    You know he hasnt made our country any better in the las 8yrs so hes stirring up shit before he gets out
Who?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/15/2016 8:49 pm

    Quoting elastic_heart:
    Howso? The bathroom bill in NC was passed by a Republican governor, not the president. Regardless of how we feel about anything Obama has done good or bad in the past 8yrs, this one isn't on him. Sorry, KZ for butting in with this one.
You have nothing to apologize for. Your comments are welcome here. Make yourself at home! Mi casa su casa. Can I get you a beer?

I read your post of the same title as mine before I discovered the original petition post. You wrote a hell of a good post and even though I don't voice on opinion on blog quarrels and spats often, this thing is getting ugly and it isn't just a normal blog squabble. It became clear that it was time to say something. I can't exactly say that you inspired my post, but you sure as hell made me think, and I might not have posted without your example.

As much as I come here to have fun, some shit you just gotta call out as shit. One of the things I'll call out as shit is sore losers blaming everything on Obama irregardless of the facts. So, you pitched in and helped out here. Thanks! Be assured that you're welcome here anytime. Come back soon, and often.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/15/2016 8:56 pm

    Quoting elastic_heart:
    Ok, and now I'll weigh in with mines. 1. Super glad and happy other people are voicing their overwhelmingly positive and intelligent opinions on the matters here and in news. I have faith in this place again. 2. I've posted my own blogs in response to her little Machiavellian scheme and her own little version of "gerrymandering". I posted a comment on her blog the day she posted that little poll, and she didn't like it- saying that she thought I was nice but I "disappointed" her. Why? Because gods forbid anyone disagreed with her; she blocked me as well, but who cares? I feel kind of tainted that she assumed I would be upset that she rejected me. I don't roll with dishonest, backbiting, gossipping, manipulative, hate-mongering trash. 3. She's spiraling. This is probably the last stand before she crashes and burns completely. I don't celebrate people unraveling because of my own emotional and mental health, but maybe this will be the time she can leave this place and get some help. This woman is not well.
You started hot and finished cool, and I agree with you.

I don't wish the woman ill, but I think she already is ill and could use the services of a good therapist. Maybe some decent meds too. But her issues are neither here nor there when it comes to relentlessly slandering an innocent party simply out of jealousy and spite. It's wrong and it ought to be called out. You did a good thing speaking up about it, and I don't doubt that your example helped others to make the same decision. How's it feel being a positive role model?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/15/2016 11:16 pm

    Quoting  :

I'll second that, or third it, or...whatever. I have doubts about her state of mind. But there are people who are that hateful and that unprincipled. That in and of itself is an illness. The hell of it is, you still gotta deal with her hurtful actions. And telling the injured party in this to just suck it up because the woman persecuting her is sick just doesn't cut it. It's gotta be hard enough to be transgendered in this repressive culture without dealing with crass opportunists like the blogger in question. Like elasticheart said, it's refreshing to see so many people standing up and trying to do the right thing.

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kinkyfem73 47F

5/16/2016 9:58 am

I can't believe she blocked me... 😢
I went and read her petition before I left my first comment here on your post.... I went back a few minutes ago to read any new comments on her petition~ only I can't!
Is it bad that I find that very very funny?!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/16/2016 10:37 am

    Quoting kinkyfem73:
    I can't believe she blocked me... 😢
    I went and read her petition before I left my first comment here on your post.... I went back a few minutes ago to read any new comments on her petition~ only I can't!
    Is it bad that I find that very very funny?!
No, it's good that you find that funny. That's her practice, the way I understand it. Complete censorship and control of what her readers can read.... It's all just silly. This is a dating, networking and fucking site! It ain't that important! She seems to see it as a personal cult, like David Koresh or Jim Jones. But that constant ragging on the new top blogger is getting way out of hand. maybe she's getting ready to serve up the Koolaid.

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sweet_VM 62F
81036 posts
5/16/2016 3:15 pm

Your most welcome KZ I did like pimping your blog and I am happy you have some new people visiting and reading it! I couldn't believe how many views it got and comments.. Nice to see most of us bloggers love the way you blog! hugssssssss V

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/16/2016 3:34 pm

    Quoting RichWalker19055:
    You already know my clueless male position on the whole petition thing, so here's my take on the whole bathroom issue:

    As long as they mind their own business and let me mind mine, anybody can use the same bathroom as I do.
I started out in a home with one outhouse. We all used it and never had any fistfights about it. We moved up to one indoor bathroom and thought we were in the lap of luxury. I had to share a locker room with a bunch of grungy truckers. If I can do that I'm sure as hell not worried about trans people sharing the same can. I don't even mind sharing with Republicans, but I do keep an eye on their stance.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/16/2016 3:42 pm

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    Your most welcome KZ I did like pimping your blog and I am happy you have some new people visiting and reading it! I couldn't believe how many views it got and comments.. Nice to see most of us bloggers love the way you blog! hugssssssss V
I'll start right out with the hugs today. I'm surprised by the number of comments on this post too, and I'm also very pleased that so many folks expressed support for our top blogger. She's very nice and always polite even in disagreement.

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HermanG67 53M
8080 posts
5/16/2016 5:30 pm

I think the petition is vindictive and mean spirited, the current top blogger is an honest sweet lady, who has never misrepresented herself to me


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/16/2016 5:43 pm

    Quoting HermanG67:
    I think the petition is vindictive and mean spirited, the current top blogger is an honest sweet lady, who has never misrepresented herself to me
It was good of you to say so Herman. I agree with you, obviously. I hope it lifts her spirits to see all the folks who backed her up. I reckon she needs a rest!

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spankandsquirt20 41F
10332 posts
5/17/2016 5:15 am

Great post. I couldn't agree more....I can't for my life understand why anyone would want to spread hate like this. I try to stay out of this drama as much as possible. But is is so sad that the need to be on top makes someone act in such a hateful way.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/17/2016 5:44 am

    Quoting spankandsquirt20:
    Great post. I couldn't agree more....I can't for my life understand why anyone would want to spread hate like this. I try to stay out of this drama as much as possible. But is is so sad that the need to be on top makes someone act in such a hateful way.
Thanks. There are always gonna be disagreements. I figure that much is inevitable with people. This really isn't about that Most Active List for me, but because of the list it got more attention, which is kinda sad because it happens to others who aren't so high profile. And it's clearly ALL about the list and noting else for the former top blogger. THAT is really sad.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/17/2016 12:13 pm

    Quoting  :

Well, thanks. I'd really rather have done without it.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/17/2016 12:22 pm

    Quoting  :

We all fuck up from time to time. I try to at least listen to other points of view, but I honestly think the only reason I'm obligated to is a kind of social reciprocity- I want a chance to have my say, too. Fair is fair. But I'm NOT obligated to agree, or even be pleasant about it.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/17/2016 5:59 pm

    Quoting RichWalker19055:
    Exactly, "no foot-tapping" allowed. And courtesy flushes are always appreciated.
Well, you know, I'm fairly laissez faire about even foot tapping. To each his own. I've never said no and been challenged on that no. I'm even kind of flattered, in a way. At my age, you take compliments where you can find them. But we're on the same page about courtesy flushes!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/19/2016 5:33 pm

    Quoting SexiLuvinGirl:
    What I find unsettling, is people choose to voice their opinion about the blog being referenced and being transgender; however, the person that wrote the blog, who I am not friends with, is being bashed for writing her opinions and thoughts. I'm not on anyone's side! What I think is disrespectful is any dishonesty or trash talking. I was bashed for writing a blog in agreement with Sandy. It does not mean I "hate" anyone. I'm not that way.

    I just came back here. I went to both person's blogs who are being referenced. I didn't have time to read every single blog on the transgender male's site to find one section that indicated that she/he was not born female. She/he is still not female. I think transgendered people have a huge challenge for themselves and it's a tough role. But, posting pictures of giving blow jobs to men on the website with an "assumed" purpose to attract men, to me is not right nor are a lot of other things that happen on this website.

    I think the majority of people who have commented on both of these blogs and my blog have been rude and disrespectful in the sense of not allowing other people to have an opinion that they may not agree with and telling them to shut up for voicing their opinion on a subject matter that is a very touchy subject.

    Whether or not Sandy is po'd about loosing her spot on the blog list, I don't know. In my opinion, she earned her place WHICH DOES NOT MEAN I AM HER FRIEND!

    Additionally, haters and people that discriminate are also about everyone of the individuals that don't allow a person(s) to voice their own opinion without being slander and ridiculed by others for doing so, which is exactly what you're doing here.

    This does not make you any better than Sandy or the transgendered male. There is a way to approach a subject without bashing others, which is what you've done here, too. You've all voiced opinions on the subject, which you feel you have the right to do and you do. You're comments are not nice, not friendly; but, hateful and filled with jealous rants about "assumed" speculations as to why Sandy is assumed to be "mad". Just like many of you assumed and stated that I was Sandy's friend. Let me make this clear. You're liars!

    I'm sorry; but, this blog is just as hateful as any other blog that demeans a person and slanders a person with statements you don't know to be true or facts. You think you know!
No, it isn't hateful to call someone out for hateful behavior. And- I have never asserted anything about you in your blog or elsewhere. I never even heard of you til you commented here. You can criticize me for disagreeing with a commenter here but I didn't shut anyone up or deny anyone a right to speak. However, I have a right to disagree and I'll keep on doing so.

As to your assertion that "she/he is still not female", we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on that. I don't see it that way.

It makes no sense to assert that the former top blogger is well with in her rights to do anything she damn well pleases but anyone who takes issue with that is being hateful. That's just stupid.

And yes- I do think I know, otherwise I would not have said so.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/19/2016 5:36 pm

    Quoting SexiLuvinGirl:
    Where is anyone telling anyone else how to live? How is that any different than transgendered men and/or women using the restroom based on their birth gender? It's not. You're voicing your opinions, just like others. Because they don't agree with you or see things the way you want, it doesn't mean they're telling someone where to live. Where is that written? Who said this? Back up your comment?
Now you're just trolling comments. You've made your point.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/19/2016 6:25 pm

    Quoting SexiLuvinGirl:
    "She" never bothers anyone and "She" blocked me. Listen to what you're saying. Ok. I get it. If it's petty, why in Gawd's name are you rambling on with this?
And I'm beginning to see why she blocked you.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/19/2016 6:29 pm

    Quoting SexiLuvinGirl:
    Bullys? I think every single one of the people involved in the comments on this blog and others are bullys! All trying to force your opinions on others for your own reaons. kzoopair? You got attention by posting this? Probably more attention that you got on any other blog that you've every posted? Deceptive motives? Yes. Are you top male blogger yet? Should I assume that was the reason you posted a blog to slander another blogger and draw a crowd? I don't know. Tell me you had "positive ommms" when you posted a hate blog against Sandy.

    This does not make you any better.
Your comment is complete rubbish. No one is forced to read the post and you know that very well. People comment voluntarily and you know that too. Stop blowin' smoke and hollerin' fire. Do you figure that if you throw enough shit maybe something will stick?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/19/2016 7:02 pm

    Quoting  :

I'm not surprised. She's having a night, that one! She may have gone off her meds.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/19/2016 7:11 pm

    Quoting SexiLuvinGirl:
    "She" never bothers anyone and "She" blocked me. Listen to what you're saying. Ok. I get it. If it's petty, why in Gawd's name are you rambling on with this?
You've been leaving a trail of shit wherever you've been tonight. I'm done responding to you.

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Furbal1972 48M
18589 posts
5/19/2016 7:15 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    I'm not surprised. She's having a night, that one! She may have gone off her meds.
"Gone off her meds". .. That's exactly what I was going to say!

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nightsoul1962 58F
17860 posts
5/19/2016 7:19 pm

This is all so very entertaining!!!! I'm LMAO!!!!
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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/19/2016 7:23 pm

    Quoting Furbal1972:
    "Gone off her meds". .. That's exactly what I was going to say!
Doesn't it look like that, though? She's got a wheelbarrow full of bullshit and she's trundling from blog to blog with it, sharing equally everywhere she goes. The arguments she makes are the same as any troll- only people who agree with her are practicing free speech- the rest of us are hateful. I blocked her. I was hesitating and then when I read your post it tipped me to teetering. When I looked at Buni's post that iced it. She's just a troublemaker.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/19/2016 7:27 pm

    Quoting nightsoul1962:
    This is all so very entertaining!!!! I'm LMAO!!!!
    I said it before and I'll say it again: if I was T. I would take my cock out and say "suck it bitch!!!!!! " End of story!
Well, I see your point. I was kind of chuckling when I read her comments here- she made seven!- but after reading a couple of friends' posts I've had enough of her. All she's doing is trying to stir shit. And it's her own shit. Ain't it funny how she just decided to come back tonight in a certain blogger's time of need?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/20/2016 10:13 am

    Quoting  :

And so.....?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/20/2016 3:59 pm

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    No, we can piss the bunch of them off by wearing a RED dress and strap on.....seems they absolutely hate that......
    I'm wondering if Chris de Burgh song, Lady in Red.....now has a different meaning

damnedvixen, you are my guiding light!

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humorlife 115M
5719 posts
5/21/2016 2:03 am

As a guiding ethos, I will stand opposed to anything which creates a second-class citizenry. And yes, there is a difference between the false label of wanting privileges and putting anyone -- or any group -- into a second-class position. Within North Carolina's "research triangle" region are some enlightened individuals... and they're mortified (and in some cases outraged) by this.

As for the current kerfuffle... I'm almost glad that my current state of deadlines has kept me from blogging and reading as much as I would have liked of late. (Well, I also like paying rent and eating regularly, too.) This whole business is ridiculous.

A tangential note: When you speak with folks who are investigating, or who have investigated, their gender or sexuality issues, there's often an undercurrent of personal pain. I suspect most of your readers -- the enlightened ones, at least -- know folks who fall into this category. There is nothing about this which does anything but exacerbate or remind them of their pain.

Lovely. And entirely unnecessary. I'm going back to read and write about people who have fun fucking their friends and acquaintances. Seems a lot healthier to me...

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/21/2016 7:38 am

    Quoting humorlife:
    As a guiding ethos, I will stand opposed to anything which creates a second-class citizenry. And yes, there is a difference between the false label of wanting privileges and putting anyone -- or any group -- into a second-class position. Within North Carolina's "research triangle" region are some enlightened individuals... and they're mortified (and in some cases outraged) by this.

    As for the current kerfuffle... I'm almost glad that my current state of deadlines has kept me from blogging and reading as much as I would have liked of late. (Well, I also like paying rent and eating regularly, too.) This whole business is ridiculous.

    A tangential note: When you speak with folks who are investigating, or who have investigated, their gender or sexuality issues, there's often an undercurrent of personal pain. I suspect most of your readers -- the enlightened ones, at least -- know folks who fall into this category. There is nothing about this which does anything but exacerbate or remind them of their pain.

    Lovely. And entirely unnecessary. I'm going back to read and write about people who have fun fucking their friends and acquaintances. Seems a lot healthier to me...
I wasn't thrilled to have this as a topic. But sometimes you actually have to say something with the words in a post. I prefer fun and games, but this topic kept aggravating me.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/21/2016 4:00 pm

    Quoting  :

Thanks, eMAN. Seriously, thanks. It means a lot to me.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/23/2016 2:49 pm

    Quoting  :

Thank you. Me too.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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5/23/2016 4:04 pm

    Quoting  :

Thanks, eMAN. I've got a story I should be working on too but I've been neglecting that as well.

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thegrlsnme 63F  
1683 posts
5/26/2016 4:44 am

It's called a family bathroom, most places already have them....thegrls

Enjoy the ride searching for what you want here..........thegrls


QUEENBEEV 55F  
4204 posts
5/26/2016 7:32 am

The really sad and horribly disgusting part is this isn't her first time.

She is truly pathological...and for what? A top spot on a site that I'm sure she doesn't even want the people she works with knowing she even belongs to!

She is pathetic.

Oh...and I think we should start a club..."Blocked By She Who Used To Rule Blogville And It Feels So Good"

Membership in this club is not in any way exclusive...all you have to do is disagree with her or tell her something she doesn't want to hear.

I'm a charter member my darling!

Smooches!

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QUEENBEEV 55F  
4204 posts
5/26/2016 7:51 am

Oh...I totally forgot...she not only blocked me...but REPORTED me to the site for having the audacity to speak her name while quoting what she said!

I had to write an APOLOGY letter to this head case!

Of course...it was positively daripppping with sarcasm and disdain!

Just for quoting her...

She has zero credibility in my eyes...just fluff and vile.

I'm happy people are finally starting to open their eyes...this needs to be a fun place to hang out with like minded people again.

Great post.

Smooches

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/26/2016 8:11 am

    Quoting thegrlsnme:
    It's called a family bathroom, most places already have them....thegrls
Just so!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/26/2016 8:21 am

    Quoting QUEENBEEV:
    The really sad and horribly disgusting part is this isn't her first time.

    She is truly pathological...and for what? A top spot on a site that I'm sure she doesn't even want the people she works with knowing she even belongs to!

    She is pathetic.

    Oh...and I think we should start a club..."Blocked By She Who Used To Rule Blogville And It Feels So Good"

    Membership in this club is not in any way exclusive...all you have to do is disagree with her or tell her something she doesn't want to hear.

    I'm a charter member my darling!

    Smooches!
That club has to be getting pretty big by now! And this is still a fun place to hang out. There are a lot of great bloggers here who make for very entertaining company.

I know it's not the first time, but this one seemed especially vile and the timing was there too, with political opportunists both in government and here trying to milk a polarizing non-issue for whatever they might stand to gain.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/26/2016 8:27 am

    Quoting QUEENBEEV:
    Oh...I totally forgot...she not only blocked me...but REPORTED me to the site for having the audacity to speak her name while quoting what she said!

    I had to write an APOLOGY letter to this head case!

    Of course...it was positively daripppping with sarcasm and disdain!

    Just for quoting her...

    She has zero credibility in my eyes...just fluff and vile.

    I'm happy people are finally starting to open their eyes...this needs to be a fun place to hang out with like minded people again.

    Great post.

    Smooches
Blogging here can be a kind of game, can't it? If you annoy the wrong person and make a technical mistake you know they'll take advantage of that! I haven't encountered many bloggers who behave that way. There's got to be something very magical about that damned list that you and I are missing.

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sweet_VM 62F
81036 posts
5/27/2016 9:20 am

You have done well with this post KZ. hugssssssss V

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/27/2016 10:55 am

    Quoting sweet_VM:
    You have done well with this post KZ. hugssssssss V
It got ten times more reads than I thought it would, V. Kind of interesting figuring as how I really didn't want to post it. I like discussion but I don't really much care for arguing, and an internet argument is a really hard sell to me. This seemed bound to provoke argument. I've been pleased that this was mostly discussion and that the commenters acquitted themselves so well.

Huggggs B

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davidalive 65M
3 posts
5/27/2016 1:29 pm

What I have noticed the most about Trans biological males who id as female
is they mostly want couples FF , MF, or F only.
Transgender is a way of saying am special & to look at me, give me a participation trophy for being meh. I can be as discriminate, yell, act out, dress,
curse and you have to accept it or the full force of young society, progressives,
leftists and know some states along with US Justice Department to help me hammer you.
We will eliminate Free Speech & Free Thought. Only what we say will be allowed or we yell DISCRIMINATION.
So here when someone searches for Women they must be very careful that looking at a biological born female when that is what they want.
I am starting a new group for people to join. Up is really down. Black is really white people, latins are asians, arabs are jews, etc.
Lets really be progressive.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/27/2016 2:26 pm

    Quoting davidalive:
    What I have noticed the most about Trans biological males who id as female
    is they mostly want couples FF , MF, or F only.
    Transgender is a way of saying am special & to look at me, give me a participation trophy for being meh. I can be as discriminate, yell, act out, dress,
    curse and you have to accept it or the full force of young society, progressives,
    leftists and know some states along with US Justice Department to help me hammer you.
    We will eliminate Free Speech & Free Thought. Only what we say will be allowed or we yell DISCRIMINATION.
    So here when someone searches for Women they must be very careful that looking at a biological born female when that is what they want.
    I am starting a new group for people to join. Up is really down. Black is really white people, latins are asians, arabs are jews, etc.
    Lets really be progressive.
What you describe isn't progressive at all and I disagree with you that progressives, liberals or for that matter anyone thinks that any kind of behavior by transgendered persons is acceptable. Every group is going to have some individuals who are rude or surly, and even bigoted. We're human- we can't escape that. You can reduce the concept of equity to absurdity if you want to. I prefer not to. I don't think it's absurd at all.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/27/2016 2:30 pm

    Quoting  :

Thanks again eMAN. Obviously there's some disagreement about what constitutes a "T" on the site or in the world at large. Even people who seem to more or less agree on the basics can't manage to come together about everything. There's enough variation in how people perceive their sexuality that I'm pretty comfortable with letting them simply define it for themselves. Our gender and sexuality have been shown to be about more than body parts.

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doctorstan365 52M
48 posts
5/29/2016 3:16 pm

I don't understand why AdultFriendFinder doesn't just create a category for the catchall of people who identify as neither male or female. It would be very easy to do in terms of programming.

I'm all for equality and civil rights for all. As much as I have no interest in dating or hooking up with anyone who is not female, I think it would be nice for everyone is transgendered/cisgendered/etc had their own section on the site.

And you're right...you have to wonder about all the closeted Republican homosexuals who said they risked being converted to gayness if gay marriage were allowed. I've never had any doubts about my own gender preferences....


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/29/2016 8:03 pm

    Quoting doctorstan365:
    I don't understand why AdultFriendFinder doesn't just create a category for the catchall of people who identify as neither male or female. It would be very easy to do in terms of programming.

    I'm all for equality and civil rights for all. As much as I have no interest in dating or hooking up with anyone who is not female, I think it would be nice for everyone is transgendered/cisgendered/etc had their own section on the site.

    And you're right...you have to wonder about all the closeted Republican homosexuals who said they risked being converted to gayness if gay marriage were allowed. I've never had any doubts about my own gender preferences....
They sort of do have another category- T. I'm not sure what you mean by their own section on the site. It kind of sounds like the way black people had their own section on busses back in the Jim Crow era, or how homosexuals had their own sections...in closets. Jews had their own sections in Warsaw during the Nazi occupation too. if I've taken your meaning wrong, I apologize in advance. That phrase "their own section" is confusing to me.

As far as "having their own section" the site's owners do have many different sites catering to different folks' interests, but all of them feed into the main site. We see their profiles and blog posts here with all the others and we share chat rooms. I like the idea of including everyone on all the sites. We're all human and sexual and I think it gives us all insight into what makes our fellow members tick.

Thanks for your comment. My post is mainly meant to point out the hypocrisy as well as the eventual futility of scapegoating other groups for mere temporary personal gain. There's a hell of a lot of dishonesty in that. It bothers me considerably that it's seen as the American way, as politics as usual. It IS true, but it still bugs me. We ought to hold ourselves to a higher standard.

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doctorstan365 52M
48 posts
5/30/2016 3:54 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    They sort of do have another category- T. I'm not sure what you mean by their own section on the site. It kind of sounds like the way black people had their own section on busses back in the Jim Crow era, or how homosexuals had their own sections...in closets. Jews had their own sections in Warsaw during the Nazi occupation too. if I've taken your meaning wrong, I apologize in advance. That phrase "their own section" is confusing to me.

    As far as "having their own section" the site's owners do have many different sites catering to different folks' interests, but all of them feed into the main site. We see their profiles and blog posts here with all the others and we share chat rooms. I like the idea of including everyone on all the sites. We're all human and sexual and I think it gives us all insight into what makes our fellow members tick.

    Thanks for your comment. My post is mainly meant to point out the hypocrisy as well as the eventual futility of scapegoating other groups for mere temporary personal gain. There's a hell of a lot of dishonesty in that. It bothers me considerably that it's seen as the American way, as politics as usual. It IS true, but it still bugs me. We ought to hold ourselves to a higher standard.
I'm sorry...I didn't look around AdultFriendFinder more before writing my last comment. Yes, there already is a "TS/TV/TG " category, and that's what I was thinking of when I wrote "their own section." So, basically, there's no problem as far as I'm concerned. And I'm with you on the politics of gender/orientation scapegoating. Power on, bro.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/30/2016 9:01 am

    Quoting doctorstan365:
    I'm sorry...I didn't look around AdultFriendFinder more before writing my last comment. Yes, there already is a "TS/TV/TG " category, and that's what I was thinking of when I wrote "their own section." So, basically, there's no problem as far as I'm concerned. And I'm with you on the politics of gender/orientation scapegoating. Power on, bro.
Thanks for coming back to clarify that. We're on the same page. I hope to see you here again!

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rm_needTScockM 36M
2 posts
5/30/2016 6:15 pm

mhm


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
5/30/2016 8:03 pm

Um...what?

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sexcbeach1 44M
314 posts
6/2/2016 6:12 am

Thank U for standing up to bigots & bullies! I have caught Ms S hating on trans people a couple of times. And when I confronted her on her blog, she called me a liar! she said that trans people are useless & cant provide life! And I said, well there is nuthin stopping them from IVF


sexcbeach1 44M
314 posts
6/2/2016 6:15 am

And what is the big deal about bathrooms!!! gee whiz... im no stranger to bush camping lol


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/2/2016 9:20 am

    Quoting sexcbeach1:
    Thank U for standing up to bigots & bullies! I have caught Ms S hating on trans people a couple of times. And when I confronted her on her blog, she called me a liar! she said that trans people are useless & cant provide life! And I said, well there is nuthin stopping them from IVF
I'm no authority on that blogger's history- there are plenty of bloggers who've been here longer than I have and they know her better. But there appears to be a pattern of being willing to say or do anything to get attention and not caring who gets hurt. I kind of doubt that she even believes her own bullshit. It just looks like opportunism to me. That behavior identifies her as a troll. I've been seeing that in our politics too- rank hypocrisy and manipulation of people's basest instincts, and it was time to call it what it is- despicable.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/2/2016 9:23 am

    Quoting sexcbeach1:
    And what is the big deal about bathrooms!!! gee whiz... im no stranger to bush camping lol
It's a dog whistle to rally the forces of darkness... They come trotting out right away to show their outrage that all us sub-standard folks think we deserve kindness and consideration. The proper response is to piss on their shoes.

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sexcbeach1 44M
314 posts
6/2/2016 5:49 pm

thanks for making me smile & believe in descent human beings like yerself & yer missus! wishing u both lots of fun & happiness xox


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/2/2016 6:21 pm

    Quoting sexcbeach1:
    thanks for making me smile & believe in descent human beings like yerself & yer missus! wishing u both lots of fun & happiness xox
You're most welcome! Thanks for reading and commenting. I hope to see you here again, soon and often. This site has a hell of a lot of fine bloggers. It's a shame that a few clowns try to control it and ruin it for the rest of us.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/5/2016 11:09 am

    Quoting RichWalker19055:
    I got blocked by her too. That's ironic since she asked to include a link to my blog in hers. I guess she wants her fans to come comment on my blog, but won't let me comment on hers.

    I guess reporting bloggers is her new game now. Pretty sad. The only consolation is that such hateful behavior damages the person doing it as much as their victims, they just don't see it.
That is interesting! Some people don't do nuance or subtlety. The bludgeon seems to be her weapon of choice. And you are SO right- the people behaving that way just don't get it.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/6/2016 2:41 pm

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    Why would she Block you? She commented on one of your following posts after 'crossing the line in blog land'

    Though as I make clear to folks, I've never commented on her posts, let alone NEGATIVELY, ever.....and yet, she's done both to me......and then, refers to me negatively on OTHER folks posts but NEVER has the balls to QUOTE me.....I can only guess in the hope that I won't see what she has to say.....
    Seems it's just being b*tchy rather than actual ability to make a worthy observant constructive comment to me...
    I'm glad more folks have seen the truth about her......shame it's taken someone else to be persecuted, for it to be revealed.....many of us have been trying to point it out for months/years.....

I think it's probably a safe bet that, should you visit the U.S.A. again, you won't be invited for a southern fried chicken dinner at her place. I think I'm off that list too. Do you like lasagna?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/6/2016 6:34 pm

    Quoting dontknow201011:
    after reading all this i really wanna know who the top bloggers are..........how do i find out who you all are referring to???? someone mail me pretty please?
Well, it won't help because it's changed in the last couple of days, but, I'll try to help anyhow.

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Not_here2meet 52F
3847 posts
6/7/2016 9:54 am

I just want to chime in and say, I'm glad I missed all of this.

Great analogy with the bathrooms, it's almost like North Carolina is playing out on AdultFriendFinder!

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/7/2016 10:03 am

    Quoting Not_here2meet:
    I just want to chime in and say, I'm glad I missed all of this.

    Great analogy with the bathrooms, it's almost like North Carolina is playing out on AdultFriendFinder!
Most of us would have been happy to have missed it too.

It's good to see you back!

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rm_PrisicaK 45F
481 posts
6/7/2016 1:47 pm

I think transgender confuses most people. Biologically one would need to be a hemaphrodite to be across or between gender. I'm comfortable recognizing a male as a woman if he has undergone gender reassignment. Otherwise he's just a crossdressing homosexual.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/7/2016 3:41 pm

    Quoting rm_PrisicaK:
    I think transgender confuses most people. Biologically one would need to be a hemaphrodite to be across or between gender. I'm comfortable recognizing a male as a woman if he has undergone gender reassignment. Otherwise he's just a crossdressing homosexual.
I think transgender confuses most people too. But I also think gender identity is about more than anatomy. I'm convinced that it's very much about biology, and by that I mean the biology of the brain. There's a good article- "Check the Science: Being Trans is Not a 'Choice' by Leslie P. Henderson that talks about just that.

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rm_PrisicaK 45F
481 posts
6/8/2016 11:40 am

I find it interesting that scientists look to nature to qualify the unnatural. That is where science loses its footing somewhat. Transgenderism is not identified in the animal kingdom. I understand that humans are a complex organism but seriously. Homosexuality is identified in animal population but as a species we have exceeded proportionality seen in nature. There is not a significant occurrence of homosexuality in nature because it is a recipe for extinction.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/8/2016 11:54 am

    Quoting rm_PrisicaK:
    I find it interesting that scientists look to nature to qualify the unnatural. That is where science loses its footing somewhat. Transgenderism is not identified in the animal kingdom. I understand that humans are a complex organism but seriously. Homosexuality is identified in animal population but as a species we have exceeded proportionality seen in nature. There is not a significant occurrence of homosexuality in nature because it is a recipe for extinction.
Because a thing has not yet been identified in nature does not mean it doesn't exist. Since we don't communicate well with animals they can't tell us that they have gender ambiguity. All we have is observation. What observation has assured you that transgenders do not exist in nature?

Your statement "There is not a significant occurrence of homosexuality in nature because it is a recipe for extinction" doesn't make sense to me. I would assert that as long as there are a sufficient number of reproducing individuals, homosexuality in no way threatens the survival of a species.

Are you positing that homosexuals and transgendered persons are unnatural? Again, I disagree. They clearly are natural, just not as common as heterosexuals. Are redheads also unnatural? How about left handed people?

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KItkat1415 58F  
19980 posts
6/8/2016 8:40 pm

    Quoting davidalive:
    What I have noticed the most about Trans biological males who id as female
    is they mostly want couples FF , MF, or F only.
    Transgender is a way of saying am special & to look at me, give me a participation trophy for being meh. I can be as discriminate, yell, act out, dress,
    curse and you have to accept it or the full force of young society, progressives,
    leftists and know some states along with US Justice Department to help me hammer you.
    We will eliminate Free Speech & Free Thought. Only what we say will be allowed or we yell DISCRIMINATION.
    So here when someone searches for Women they must be very careful that looking at a biological born female when that is what they want.
    I am starting a new group for people to join. Up is really down. Black is really white people, latins are asians, arabs are jews, etc.
    Lets really be progressive.
Hey David,
There are lots of people who specify one group of people over others. Why should that bother you? After all, I'm going to hazard a guess that you probably have groups of people that you don't want either because, um, you have preferences. It's ok to have preferences, BTW.

People who are transgender do NOT think they are better than anyone else, which is how your comment reads to the casual reader. They have their set of circumstances, you have yours. You identified as a male early on. They simply identified as the gender that they were not born as. It is pretty simple.

As to free speech, your comment is rather rambling but I take it that you think if people disagree with you that you are not allowed your complete free speech. You do understand that the First Amendment that guarantees Freedom of Speech means that you are allowed to express your opinion, no matter whether it is acceptable or not, without fear of the government coming in and punishing you for it? Other people who disagree with your opinion are simply exercising THEIR Freedom of Speech by stating THEIR opinion. That doesn't infringe on your opinion. If enough people disagree with your opinion, you might want to think about WHY you have the opinion you do. Is it because you are afraid of someone who is different than yourself? Is it that you don't understand how some poor person could have been born one gender and not feel that way inside? Is it because those people over there just have a different opinion based on their experience, whereas your experience is vastly different and you base your opinion on that?

Honestly, I am not challenging you on your negative opinion of progressives, liberals, transgenders, or anything else. I am simply asking you to think about why you chose to have the opinions you do and then react negatively to anyone who has a different opinion than you do.

I have written several posts regarding censorship. Having a different opinion than you do, is not censorship. I trained in journalism and censorship and the right guaranteed by the Constitution of Freedom of Speech; it's something I had to study for many years in school, and have since continued to study.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/8/2016 8:56 pm

    Quoting KItkat1415:
    Hey David,
    There are lots of people who specify one group of people over others. Why should that bother you? After all, I'm going to hazard a guess that you probably have groups of people that you don't want either because, um, you have preferences. It's ok to have preferences, BTW.

    People who are transgender do NOT think they are better than anyone else, which is how your comment reads to the casual reader. They have their set of circumstances, you have yours. You identified as a male early on. They simply identified as the gender that they were not born as. It is pretty simple.

    As to free speech, your comment is rather rambling but I take it that you think if people disagree with you that you are not allowed your complete free speech. You do understand that the First Amendment that guarantees Freedom of Speech means that you are allowed to express your opinion, no matter whether it is acceptable or not, without fear of the government coming in and punishing you for it? Other people who disagree with your opinion are simply exercising THEIR Freedom of Speech by stating THEIR opinion. That doesn't infringe on your opinion. If enough people disagree with your opinion, you might want to think about WHY you have the opinion you do. Is it because you are afraid of someone who is different than yourself? Is it that you don't understand how some poor person could have been born one gender and not feel that way inside? Is it because those people over there just have a different opinion based on their experience, whereas your experience is vastly different and you base your opinion on that?

    Honestly, I am not challenging you on your negative opinion of progressives, liberals, transgenders, or anything else. I am simply asking you to think about why you chose to have the opinions you do and then react negatively to anyone who has a different opinion than you do.

    I have written several posts regarding censorship. Having a different opinion than you do, is not censorship. I trained in journalism and censorship and the right guaranteed by the Constitution of Freedom of Speech; it's something I had to study for many years in school, and have since continued to study.

    Respectfully,
    Kitkat
Well done.

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goodatpoetry2 70M
16562 posts
6/10/2016 8:36 am

You BET it's just sour grapes.
It's ALWAYS about that damn list with her/them.

I wish some group would run an ad that shows 10 BEAUTIFUL women (some trans) and ask...
Which of THESE women do you want to go into the public bathroom with your son?

Of course, you tell them that some are trans... but which ones????


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/10/2016 10:18 am

    Quoting goodatpoetry2:
    You BET it's just sour grapes.
    It's ALWAYS about that damn list with her/them.

    I wish some group would run an ad that shows 10 BEAUTIFUL women (some trans) and ask...
    Which of THESE women do you want to go into the public bathroom with your son?

    Of course, you tell them that some are trans... but which ones????
It gets old, doesn't it? There isn't anything wrong with wanting to have a high ranking on the list, but some people just aren't mature enough to handle it. As KItkat1415 puts it, this is why we can't have nice things.

The bathroom legislation isn't a bit different from laws banning Sharia law, or the Defense of Marriage Act, or rules mandating that creationism must be taught as if it were a scientific theory- they're all dog whistles used to stir up anger and resentment among the conservative base. They help to keep us divided.

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tadakimasu 29M
244 posts
6/11/2016 12:17 am

Scary sentiment


up4stuff2 48M
16 posts
6/11/2016 8:07 am

Well I looked at this from a very much less political angle. I looked at it also from a less "I want to be top blogger" angle.
I have personally messaged with, and gone to meet a "female" member, only to find out that in fact it was not a female.
Whether they personally identified as female is not the question to me...it is: am I going to see them as a female or not? They presented themselves as one?!
I am all for being who you want to be, and this is a sex site so I would guess that people are looking for sex....presumably from who they want.
I say be who you want, but please do not try and deceive others to try and get your goal.
If you do, you can expect nothing less than some push-back. People will be upset if you try and deceive them.....and you know if you're doing it.
A person who identifies as a female, but has a penis, must know that another person who is looking for a "female", PROBABLY is looking for a person with a vagina.
Again, I am posting this not in response to some blog that should be read more than another, but to people who put up a profile and portray themselves in a certain way in order to MEET others. That is how I took the whole "Petition.." thing.


kzoopair 69M/67F
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6/11/2016 8:19 am

What?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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6/11/2016 8:22 am

    Quoting up4stuff2:
    Well I looked at this from a very much less political angle. I looked at it also from a less "I want to be top blogger" angle.
    I have personally messaged with, and gone to meet a "female" member, only to find out that in fact it was not a female.
    Whether they personally identified as female is not the question to me...it is: am I going to see them as a female or not? They presented themselves as one?!
    I am all for being who you want to be, and this is a sex site so I would guess that people are looking for sex....presumably from who they want.
    I say be who you want, but please do not try and deceive others to try and get your goal.
    If you do, you can expect nothing less than some push-back. People will be upset if you try and deceive them.....and you know if you're doing it.
    A person who identifies as a female, but has a penis, must know that another person who is looking for a "female", PROBABLY is looking for a person with a vagina.
    Again, I am posting this not in response to some blog that should be read more than another, but to people who put up a profile and portray themselves in a certain way in order to MEET others. That is how I took the whole "Petition.." thing.
I understand your point and I agree. You were misled.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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6/11/2016 8:30 am

    Quoting dontknow201011:
    i have to agree....i looked through and its all body parts. seriously thought there was more to her at one point in time.......guess not.
I don't see anything wrong with posting photos of body parts. This is advertised as a sex site, most of the membership is male and men like body parts. I like body parts. But there is something wrong with trashing anyone who might be competition for you simply because you think the guys will look at their pictures and not your own.

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up4stuff2 48M
16 posts
6/11/2016 5:55 pm

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    The person in question made clear what they were about, and IF you had met them they would have been clear about it. This is not the same as MEN behaving in a deceitful manner.

    This person was minding their own business.....none of us know what stage they were in, but what was clear, it's none of our business unless were are INTIMATE. This was purely about the former Top Blogger losing her spot. She had no interest in this person BEFORE they lost spot. Nor do they persecute 'other deceivers' and in fact, welcomes and encourages cheaters, those who shame and degrade women in their posts, etc.
    In the meantime, they also do not show their FACE for millions to see. Unlike the person who I'd hazard a guess, if they were deceiving in any way, it's pretty stupid to show their FACE wouldn't you say?

    Seems rather a lot of folks happy to be faceless and make accusations against someone who was upfront and honest.....and simply knocked another person off some RIDICULOUS list......and do you know how they did it? They showed a SMILING face and seemed FUN......

    It's clear to most folks on this site, there is very little FUN.....and certainly no SMILE from faceless BullyMcBullshit.....who we also now have to THANK for the removal of everyone's GENDER on the blogs.....

    Quite simply, yourself and BullyMcBullshit don't know if the person had a vagina or not. All I know is, one person showed there face throughout the whole debacle....and the other was a coward with venom. But apparently is VERY ATTRACIVE because they show tits, ass, vagina.....

    So really, generalising other folks deceit, is in no way connected to the person persecuted.....and shouldn't be deemed so.
    How about, man men on this site are deceitful......then you'd be right...

    Have a nice day......

If by "the person in question" you are referring some person who was "top blogger", then I can see you responding to some post about that particular person.
I made it pretty clear that I looked at the Petition thing not from a blogging perspective.
The question that was put forth was: should a transsexual be able to have a profile as a female.
My answer, and the reason given, were based on that. I probably could not care any less if I tried, for who does or doesn't have the spot of top blogger, and the post I made had nothing to do with blogging.
If the question was "Do you have a problem with someone portraying themselves as someone they are not, in a blog?" I would say its all possible fantasy anyways, so have at it! Doesn't bother me one bit. People author whole books in the point of view of one gender when they are the other. No real issue to me.
I can't speak for BullyMcBullshit,(whoever that is supposed to be) but i don't even know who the hell YOU are talking about that "had a vagina or not"!!
Not My Argument!! Nothing to do with my post!
After reading my post you should come to the conclusion that I believe if a man is going to meet a person, with a female profile, who portrayed themselves as a female in dialog back and forth, that that person should be a female. Not a transsexual. Not a man.
Simple and to the point.
Again, nothing here about blogs. Nothing.
Please don't roll me in with some silly squabble over the coveted "top blogger" spot.
Blogging is one thing. Portraying yourself as someone you are not, for the purpose of meeting people, is yet another.
There are deceitful people on here of both sexes. In my case it was a man posing as a woman. A man will pose as a couple as well. Men do it all the time on here, if I had a choice it would be that you have to have a profile based on what you are....regardless...it might make it a little easier to weed out what you want and what you don't....for all sexes.
Just be honest about who you are and what you want.
And for the record, showing off tits, ass, and a vagina doesn't automatically make you attractive.
Have a great day.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/11/2016 8:58 pm

    Quoting up4stuff2:
    If by "the person in question" you are referring some person who was "top blogger", then I can see you responding to some post about that particular person.
    I made it pretty clear that I looked at the Petition thing not from a blogging perspective.
    The question that was put forth was: should a transsexual be able to have a profile as a female.
    My answer, and the reason given, were based on that. I probably could not care any less if I tried, for who does or doesn't have the spot of top blogger, and the post I made had nothing to do with blogging.
    If the question was "Do you have a problem with someone portraying themselves as someone they are not, in a blog?" I would say its all possible fantasy anyways, so have at it! Doesn't bother me one bit. People author whole books in the point of view of one gender when they are the other. No real issue to me.
    I can't speak for BullyMcBullshit,(whoever that is supposed to be) but i don't even know who the hell YOU are talking about that "had a vagina or not"!!
    Not My Argument!! Nothing to do with my post!
    After reading my post you should come to the conclusion that I believe if a man is going to meet a person, with a female profile, who portrayed themselves as a female in dialog back and forth, that that person should be a female. Not a transsexual. Not a man.
    Simple and to the point.
    Again, nothing here about blogs. Nothing.
    Please don't roll me in with some silly squabble over the coveted "top blogger" spot.
    Blogging is one thing. Portraying yourself as someone you are not, for the purpose of meeting people, is yet another.
    There are deceitful people on here of both sexes. In my case it was a man posing as a woman. A man will pose as a couple as well. Men do it all the time on here, if I had a choice it would be that you have to have a profile based on what you are....regardless...it might make it a little easier to weed out what you want and what you don't....for all sexes.
    Just be honest about who you are and what you want.
    And for the record, showing off tits, ass, and a vagina doesn't automatically make you attractive.
    Have a great day.
Again, I take your point, and thanks for reiterating it. It did help to clarify, but you were clear in the first place. I take no issue with your wish that people would be honest. My contention is and always has been that the transgendered blogger being discussed here was never dishonest or deceitful. She was open about who and what she was, in her profile and in her blog. She chooses to identify as female and I'm not bothered in the least by that, since she was always open about herself. The point of my post was not to debate whether or not transgendered people are male or female or trans and can identify as they choose. I happen to think, as you do, that they can identify as whatever they're comfortable with. My point of view here is essentially political, in that I was trying to point out hypocrisy and pandering for personal gain, and draw a parallel between what was being done on this site and on the national stage at the same time. I contend that the issue on this site and in the larger world is the singling out of a minority not because of any real interest in public safety, or to promote greater honesty and truthfulness, or morality, but purely for some temporary personal goal. I stand by my assertion that it was crass, deceitful and petty in it's motivation.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
6/12/2016 12:43 am

Hello,

Just wanted to let you know that the Petition post was removed by the site. Not sure how many members were blocked or not, but figured since you went to the trouble of creating a blog so members could share their feelings/opinions on this "petition" then I figured you'd want to know that the petition was removed.

I hope one or more members can let the blogger who was the center or target of the petition know it is gone/removed and perhaps she'll choose to blog here again. I believe she is missed by a lot of members/fans of hers.

Thank you & Happy Sun,

Ana6

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He made me pretty
He made me smart


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/12/2016 9:29 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello,

    Just wanted to let you know that the Petition post was removed by the site. Not sure how many members were blocked or not, but figured since you went to the trouble of creating a blog so members could share their feelings/opinions on this "petition" then I figured you'd want to know that the petition was removed.

    I hope one or more members can let the blogger who was the center or target of the petition know it is gone/removed and perhaps she'll choose to blog here again. I believe she is missed by a lot of members/fans of hers.

    Thank you & Happy Sun,

    Ana6
Thanks. That was thoughtful of you to tell me. I'm not surprised that the post is gone in light of subsequent events. I'd be surprised if she ever makes a return under that username.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
6/12/2016 10:52 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Thanks. That was thoughtful of you to tell me. I'm not surprised that the post is gone in light of subsequent events. I'd be surprised if she ever makes a return under that username.
Hello Kzoopair,

You're welcome. I felt very strongly about this issue and knew that you and other great members like Rick were blogging, posting and being blocked. I truly hope one day the Lady might choose to come back to the site again. I've spent a lot of time either getting members handles back after being removed unfairly or trying to keep great members from leaving. This site is only as strong as our member base is. I will hope as you said, the Lady might not use the same name but might return one day and her personality will shine through whatever unique handle name she chooses.

Have a Great week ,

Ana6

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He made me pretty
He made me smart


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/13/2016 8:54 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello Kzoopair,

    You're welcome. I felt very strongly about this issue and knew that you and other great members like Rick were blogging, posting and being blocked. I truly hope one day the Lady might choose to come back to the site again. I've spent a lot of time either getting members handles back after being removed unfairly or trying to keep great members from leaving. This site is only as strong as our member base is. I will hope as you said, the Lady might not use the same name but might return one day and her personality will shine through whatever unique handle name she chooses.

    Have a Great week ,

    Ana6
Your comment is about as pleasant a way to start the day as I can think of with both of us still full clothed. Thanks!

I'd like to see her back here too. Whether she'd want to or not is another matter. She has a great attitude. That rubs off on other members- you can't help but feel better about the site and about yourself after interacting with someone like her.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
6/14/2016 4:27 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Your comment is about as pleasant a way to start the day as I can think of with both of us still full clothed. Thanks!

    I'd like to see her back here too. Whether she'd want to or not is another matter. She has a great attitude. That rubs off on other members- you can't help but feel better about the site and about yourself after interacting with someone like her.
Kzoopair,

Thank you so much. After the horror of the past weekend seeing this lovely post/msg from you made me SMILE so big. Many thanks. I am hoping we can convince Nice to return but it is her choice, All we can do is let her know she is missed. Every member we lose is another light turned off and this place is a little sadder, darker and colder because of the loss,

Happy Tues ,

Ana6

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He made me pretty
He made me smart


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/14/2016 9:46 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Kzoopair,

    Thank you so much. After the horror of the past weekend seeing this lovely post/msg from you made me SMILE so big. Many thanks. I am hoping we can convince Nice to return but it is her choice, All we can do is let her know she is missed. Every member we lose is another light turned off and this place is a little sadder, darker and colder because of the loss,

    Happy Tues ,

    Ana6
You and I had never talked or had any interaction before your first two comments. But I was curious- I thought I remembered seeing your username on the site support blog so I took a look and sure enough, there you are on the site support friends list! I was initially inclined to take your remarks at face value, and I still am. I'm sure this is, as you said, an issue you're passionate about personally. But that "Petition" post remained posted for a good month and it appears to have taken off-site events to get it removed, after months of harassment and badgering of the transgendered member in addition to the Petition. So I suppose you'll forgive me for needing a grain of salt to go along with the kind remarks, now that I know a bit more about your site activities and affiliations. The wheels of justice appear to grind quite slowly here.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
6/15/2016 2:26 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    You and I had never talked or had any interaction before your first two comments. But I was curious- I thought I remembered seeing your username on the site support blog so I took a look and sure enough, there you are on the site support friends list! I was initially inclined to take your remarks at face value, and I still am. I'm sure this is, as you said, an issue you're passionate about personally. But that "Petition" post remained posted for a good month and it appears to have taken off-site events to get it removed, after months of harassment and badgering of the transgendered member in addition to the Petition. So I suppose you'll forgive me for needing a grain of salt to go along with the kind remarks, now that I know a bit more about your site activities and affiliations. The wheels of justice appear to grind quite slowly here.
Dear Kzoopair,

You are right Sir, we've never spoken before. I noticed your blog posting about the petitions and saw Rich's too ( mis typed and called him Rick before ) then I saw how a lot of members posting had been blocked and would not know the petition was removed. I just thought you all had a right to know. No ulterior motive on my part, just trying to do the right thing. I mentioned when Buni asked me about this on Rich's blog, that our Dad had a stoke and I am busy dealing with the aftermath. When I saw the petition was there, then not removed I contacted someone and asked this situation be looked into. I just thought your blog and the members who post to it would like to know what happened since the blocking would keep you from noticing its removal. Sorry if any of this caused any confusion. Have a Great day , Ana6

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He made me pretty
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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/16/2016 9:44 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Dear Kzoopair,

    You are right Sir, we've never spoken before. I noticed your blog posting about the petitions and saw Rich's too ( mis typed and called him Rick before ) then I saw how a lot of members posting had been blocked and would not know the petition was removed. I just thought you all had a right to know. No ulterior motive on my part, just trying to do the right thing. I mentioned when Buni asked me about this on Rich's blog, that our Dad had a stoke and I am busy dealing with the aftermath. When I saw the petition was there, then not removed I contacted someone and asked this situation be looked into. I just thought your blog and the members who post to it would like to know what happened since the blocking would keep you from noticing its removal. Sorry if any of this caused any confusion. Have a Great day , Ana6
I don't think there's any confusion, on your part or mine. I'm sorry to hear that your dad had medical issues. You were certainly correct in making that a top priority.

But you aren't the only member of the site support team. Were you the only member who felt strongly about this issue? When you are off attending to personal priorities does the whole team go with you? I'd think that the site's business would go on as usual during your absence. I'm thinking that maybe I grossly underestimated your importance to the site support team. They ignored this problem assiduously for months, and managed to ignore the Petition for a month in spite of complaints about it.

I reckon rather than being confused, I'm merely impressed that one site support member does all the heavy lifting. Maybe you can fill me in a bit about how all that works.

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anastasia666 42F  
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6/16/2016 10:51 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    I don't think there's any confusion, on your part or mine. I'm sorry to hear that your dad had medical issues. You were certainly correct in making that a top priority.

    But you aren't the only member of the site support team. Were you the only member who felt strongly about this issue? When you are off attending to personal priorities does the whole team go with you? I'd think that the site's business would go on as usual during your absence. I'm thinking that maybe I grossly underestimated your importance to the site support team. They ignored this problem assiduously for months, and managed to ignore the Petition for a month in spite of complaints about it.

    I reckon rather than being confused, I'm merely impressed that one site support member does all the heavy lifting. Maybe you can fill me in a bit about how all that works.
Kzoopair,

Happy weekend Thank for taking the time to explain . I really appreciate it. Thank you also for your kind words over Dad. I am not a paid employee of the site. I am friends with the Owner/Creator of the site and I know a lot of the staff and have worked on behalf of members for yrs here. For the last 6 yrs I have been working to stabilize the company and bring the Owner back to "right the ship" so to speak. I am a Volunteer/Intern in a way. If a member has an issue or a site glitch strikes, I go find the right employee to handle it all and fix things.

I agree with you that it took way to long to have the petition removed. I think with everything going on and site glitches the site had its eye on fixing things. I went to an employee I have known since 2002 and they cleared up the issue . I asked about Nice and was told to have her call into to CS if she'd like to come back. ( I stressed it was me hoping a member who is missed would come back ) Thanks to you and other caring members I was able to report the petition and exactly how many members felt it was wrong , upsetting and needed to be removed asap.

When members stand up and defend other members being targeted that is when this site can be proud of itself. I will make sure the owner knows what happened and how upsetting it truly was . We must stand and defend the TOU and never ignore or drop the ball when it comes to bullying or harassment or the members here. After all, the site exists because of its members. We can not afford to lose anymore good members.

Happy Weekend,

Ana6

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He made me pretty
He made me smart


anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
6/16/2016 11:03 pm

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    I am hoping we can convince Nice to return but it is her choice,

    Thank you for your comment on this post and an explanation about the 'petition'..

    However, is it really Nice/her choice?
    I'm afraid if I was being bullied left, right and centre on this site, hounded for 3+ months on this site and told that due to not being 'named', nothing can be done....not sure I'd want to return either....
    ....and we are talking about previous posts made by the 'petition' person, and additional comments on a daily basis on other people posts being blatant and disrespectful of anyone's, not just the person in question, but mens choice to wear wigs/dress/ladies underwear.....

    I and a few others who read many more male posts than most do, where these slurs appeared on a daily basis, were absolutely sick to death of it....but nothing was done....

    Seems very strange to me it was tolerated for so long....on this type of site....wasn't it last year we had an LGBT banner on our homepage for a while?

    Whilst I'd love Nice to come back, unless the 'abuse' systems are tightened, why would she want such unpleasantness which no doubt start up again....

    Again, thanks for your update/comment....


Hello DamnedVixen,

Thank you for sharing your opinion & thoughts with Me. I spoke with an employee about Nice and what I saw, what the blogs defending Nice saw and how we'd like to have her come back but as we both said, it is her choice. After seeing that petition and the remarks I saw on some blogs, I can understand her not wanting to put herself through that. It is our loss not hers. I can promise you since the incident and petition was seen, the lights are ON and no more of that kind of bullying will be tolerated by anyone , male or female. If Nice chooses to consider coming back I for one would be very glad to see her and her blog back where it belongs. When this site was created in the 90's...It truly was FB before FB ever existed. The Abuse dept takes this kind of thing very seriously. ( as do I ) I have been in our chat rooms here and seen flagrant violations of the TOU and yes, reported them.

I'd like to think those members who engaged in this evil kind of harassment would think twice if Nice returned and anything untowards that they would say or type would be seen by the abuse dept straight away. Then they would be the ones deleted or blocked. Evil only wins if the good guys do nothing to stop it. I do not tolerate this kind of BS/Bullying in any aspect of my life and I would be very happy to see those members who engage in such juvenile behavior be removed from the site.

Happy weekend,

Ana6

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He made me pretty
He made me smart


ULIXBIG 65M
8136 posts
6/16/2016 11:54 pm

Missing Nice too and hoping for her to come back one day.
I tried to reason with S with the result that she deleted my post and barred me from accessing her blog ...
I have seen since that S is now boasting that she received VIP status (probably in recognition of the crusade).
Ah well, I really want to forget about the whole business, but how can you if everything ends up the wrong way round ...


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/17/2016 10:32 am

    Quoting ULIXBIG:
    Missing Nice too and hoping for her to come back one day.
    I tried to reason with S with the result that she deleted my post and barred me from accessing her blog ...
    I have seen since that S is now boasting that she received VIP status (probably in recognition of the crusade).
    Ah well, I really want to forget about the whole business, but how can you if everything ends up the wrong way round ...
I think you and I see this the same way. The person being harassed was effectively driven from the site, and the site not only contributed by looking the other way until the deed was done, but rewarded the blogger who was harassing her. It seems to me that in this case, white man speak with forked tongue. Their actions speak much more loudly than their words, which come across as empty platitudes. The site may or may not prove their commitment with future action, but in this case the damage has been done, and they allowed it to happen and then patted the offender on the back.

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Golly06 67M  
1882 posts
6/17/2016 12:18 pm

I am blissful in my ignorance. I have enjoyed the gay and transgender bloggers on here as much as the straight, so I am definitely not going to endorse anything that negatively affects them. Peace and Love.


kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
6/17/2016 12:58 pm

    Quoting Golly06:
    I am blissful in my ignorance. I have enjoyed the gay and transgender bloggers on here as much as the straight, so I am definitely not going to endorse anything that negatively affects them. Peace and Love.
Hey! I'm every bit as blissful as you are! One of the things that's so cool about blogging here is all the broad spectrum of human sexuality that's represented here. It's fun!

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KItkat1415 58F  
19980 posts
6/19/2016 6:21 pm

    Quoting up4stuff2:
    Well I looked at this from a very much less political angle. I looked at it also from a less "I want to be top blogger" angle.
    I have personally messaged with, and gone to meet a "female" member, only to find out that in fact it was not a female.
    Whether they personally identified as female is not the question to me...it is: am I going to see them as a female or not? They presented themselves as one?!
    I am all for being who you want to be, and this is a sex site so I would guess that people are looking for sex....presumably from who they want.
    I say be who you want, but please do not try and deceive others to try and get your goal.
    If you do, you can expect nothing less than some push-back. People will be upset if you try and deceive them.....and you know if you're doing it.
    A person who identifies as a female, but has a penis, must know that another person who is looking for a "female", PROBABLY is looking for a person with a vagina.
    Again, I am posting this not in response to some blog that should be read more than another, but to people who put up a profile and portray themselves in a certain way in order to MEET others. That is how I took the whole "Petition.." thing.
I can appreciate the fact that this happened to you.
The person is question who insists on posting petitions KNOWS that the person that they are directing this at has it specifically written into their profile that they were born with a penis but identifies as female.

How do I know that the former top blogger was directing this at one person? Because despite it being against TOU (the rules of engagement if you will, here on AF*F*) she has named this other person on numerous occasions, they have verbally sparred with each other on other people's blog comment's section, and continued to until both were thrown off. The aggressor in this case was let back onto the site, while the victim has not been allowed back on.

This strikes me as wrong and I will continue to speak out against this.
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QUEENBEEV 55F  
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6/20/2016 7:35 am

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    The person in question made clear what they were about, and IF you had met them they would have been clear about it. This is not the same as MEN behaving in a deceitful manner.

    This person was minding their own business.....none of us know what stage they were in, but what was clear, it's none of our business unless were are INTIMATE. This was purely about the former Top Blogger losing her spot. She had no interest in this person BEFORE they lost spot. Nor do they persecute 'other deceivers' and in fact, welcomes and encourages cheaters, those who shame and degrade women in their posts, etc.
    In the meantime, they also do not show their FACE for millions to see. Unlike the person who I'd hazard a guess, if they were deceiving in any way, it's pretty stupid to show their FACE wouldn't you say?

    Seems rather a lot of folks happy to be faceless and make accusations against someone who was upfront and honest.....and simply knocked another person off some RIDICULOUS list......and do you know how they did it? They showed a SMILING face and seemed FUN......

    It's clear to most folks on this site, there is very little FUN.....and certainly no SMILE from faceless BullyMcBullshit.....who we also now have to THANK for the removal of everyone's GENDER on the blogs.....

    Quite simply, yourself and BullyMcBullshit don't know if the person had a vagina or not. All I know is, one person showed there face throughout the whole debacle....and the other was a coward with venom. But apparently is VERY ATTRACIVE because they show tits, ass, vagina.....

    So really, generalising other folks deceit, is in no way connected to the person persecuted.....and shouldn't be deemed so.
    How about, man men on this site are deceitful......then you'd be right...

    Have a nice day......

Even if she was attractive (I gotta say a big ol nope on this one)...her actions make her hideous.

I wouldn't spend time in her presence if I was paid to.

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6/20/2016 12:34 pm

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    She might be attractive to someone.....but in real life....it appears not.....
    If she was 'happy' then she wouldn't spend her spare time sucking up to more men and aiming for the top spot...no matter how ofter she protests, action speaks louder than words.....especially merely written ones.....

    I'm sure most of us believe and according to this person too, what is on the INSIDE counts....and yet, she throws mud at folks all the time, mostly females......
    She thinks folks forget the attacks, trampling over others, stomping her feet and throwing her weight around....but we don't, as we've all seen it, even those fairly new....

    And let's put it this way, all of us females who've posted against her are likely to be insinuated we are lesbians and secretly like her........
    Yep, that's the childish crap she's pulled on 'straight' women who go against her.....so look out for a post calling me stalker/bully/secret admirer....

That does appear to be her mindset- that everyone thinks like her, or is weak and stupid. You must be either manipulative and self absorbed or dumb- there isn't any in between, and she can't acknowledge that any of us are simply disgusted by her behavior.

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nsafun1955 55M
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6/26/2016 7:05 pm

I don't know or care about the pettiness going on between the two in question, but an interesting question does pose itself here. IF the transsexual wants to be truly honest doesn't AdultFriendFinder allow a person to identify as an transexual rather than as a maie or female? If not, AdultFriendFinder should consider it. I, for one, am fed up with all of the guys posing as couples or women just to connect up. We're supposed to be all adults here so let's start acting like it.


kzoopair 69M/67F
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6/26/2016 8:15 pm

    Quoting nsafun1955:
    I don't know or care about the pettiness going on between the two in question, but an interesting question does pose itself here. IF the transsexual wants to be truly honest doesn't AdultFriendFinder allow a person to identify as an transexual rather than as a maie or female? If not, AdultFriendFinder should consider it. I, for one, am fed up with all of the guys posing as couples or women just to connect up. We're supposed to be all adults here so let's start acting like it.
I do care about the pettiness. It was one sided and malicious. The implication that there was pettiness "between the two" is incorrect.

As to "truly honest" I guess you'll have to define that for yourself. The transgendered blogger identifies as female so she chose that option. She also explained that she was transgendered, male to female. It was honest enough for me. I won't engage you in a debate about how people should identify as to gender or preference. There's room to disagree. But the spectrum of our sexuality in fact resides between the two poles of heterosexual male and female. It isn't the poles that are in question here. It's that broad expanse in between that is, and it is truly broad with every kind of nuance and permutation. In some ways gender is finally being recognized as not so cut and dried, black and white as we used to believe. The ones who are different are at last being acknowledged.

The people mentioned here have been acting like adults. I'm sure you've noticed that very often adults behave abominably. In this case one adult certainly was behaving badly, and all to try to regain her forever lost position as "Top Blogger". As I said in my post, it was shortsighted, stupid, petty and wrong.

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6/28/2016 10:00 pm

    Quoting  :

Don't be sorry for a long comment. It isn't a ramble.

I was pleased to see so many people speak up for Nicelipss too. I didn't expect to get such a long thread of comments on such a post. But it makes you feel better about people, doesn't it? Lots of members, nearly all bloggers here, thought what was happening was cruel and entirely self serving, and they stood up and said so in public. We're better here if we hang together and stand up for each other. We're all different, and we're all very much alike.

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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6/29/2016 3:26 am

    Quoting  :

"...and it was made very clear that person in question doesn't see me as even capable of being anything more than a man in a dress."

Thank you for your 'ramble'.....

The Accuser at the time, and still is, claiming she isn't against the T community....and yet, not only on her own Blog, was she throwing around comments that basically laughed at men who 'have augmentted tits, wear dresses and wigs'..... plus the, 'chick with a dick' phrase.....
She is still claiming none of that is offensive. When things are said specifically to humilitate another, then I deem it it.....but clearly, as I'm not a member of the T community, then I can only go with what is in my heart....and that is, you don't insult folks because of their appearance.
I don't insult the Accuser because of her appearance, I insult her because her comments and accusations are constantly against women, 'real or not'.....
And yes, because she harps on about how 'its what is inside that counts' and yet, as I say, implied Nicelipss didn't even do a good job of looking 'female'.....
....and yet....
...this whole pile of dog poo, was the Accuser claiming MEN were being 'fooled'.....and only knew she wasn't born female by reading Nicelipss profile...

Errr....I'm confused....I think Nicelipss looks amazing....and I'm sorry to admit, some women really do look sh*t and look like men....hope that isn't offensive....

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7/6/2016 11:30 pm

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    She has crossed a line. Is this not discrimination, harassment and abuse under human rights laws? Is it not creating hate here? Is that not against TOU? I find her behaviour disgusting. Calling me a twat like she did is minor. This is too much!!! I do hope everyone reports her emails and posts.
i m old, so some times things get by me.. and i m not sure this is the person that i m thinking of.. but , then again , if the shoe fits...
while i agree this is so fucked up .. and i have raised this issue with this woman that i was blogging with and was on my watch list..
and like i said i don t know if its the same person we are talking about.. i have to think that she is also obsessed with being top woman blogger.
i again don t know if we are talking about the same woman, but the one i m thinking of was crazy about the fact that "HE" was allowed to blog under a womans blog?

i just say that as it goes to the mind of person.. to be so crazy about what people think of there body as to put on blog after blog of tell me what you think of my tits and ass..
the need for adoration of oneself , the need to be top blogger and having a dick take that away from you and not being able to handle that. telling her bloggers that her hubby was gay.

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7/7/2016 9:07 am

    Quoting ranchomongo:
    i m old, so some times things get by me.. and i m not sure this is the person that i m thinking of.. but , then again , if the shoe fits...
    while i agree this is so fucked up .. and i have raised this issue with this woman that i was blogging with and was on my watch list..
    and like i said i don t know if its the same person we are talking about.. i have to think that she is also obsessed with being top woman blogger.
    i again don t know if we are talking about the same woman, but the one i m thinking of was crazy about the fact that "HE" was allowed to blog under a womans blog?

    i just say that as it goes to the mind of person.. to be so crazy about what people think of there body as to put on blog after blog of tell me what you think of my tits and ass..
    the need for adoration of oneself , the need to be top blogger and having a dick take that away from you and not being able to handle that. telling her bloggers that her hubby was gay.

    crazy.
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80SROCKR 60M
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7/7/2016 7:44 pm

The real truth here is not who the top blogger is (the top two currently being real women), but what the top blogger was pretending to be. This person is no longer the top blogger because the lie has been exposed. If this person were truthful they would still be the top blogger or would have never been the top blogger.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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7/7/2016 9:27 pm

    Quoting 80SROCKR:
    The real truth here is not who the top blogger is (the top two currently being real women), but what the top blogger was pretending to be. This person is no longer the top blogger because the lie has been exposed. If this person were truthful they would still be the top blogger or would have never been the top blogger.
She wasn't lying. And that's not why she's no longer here.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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7/7/2016 11:36 pm

He certainly does, Missy. And maybe he knows that. This is all about maneuvering for position, isn't it? The trolls and minions come out and continue the trash talking even after they succeeded in driving away a decent woman. Her name isn't going away though. Nicelipss didn't lie about a damned thing.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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7/8/2016 6:57 am

    Quoting  :

Those are good points. Thanks for that!

There seems to be some effort to keep up the pretense that nicelipss suspension was about her using F as her gender, and that it was also the basis for the former top blogger's Petition. There may be some minions of that blogger who are dumb enough to believe that. The truth is that nicelipss' only transgression was becoming popular enough to take over the top blogger spot herself. The new top blogger is clearly female and already the knives are coming out for her. Her fans are being threatened and emails denigrating her are being sent. This is an old pattern that has worked in the past to manipulate the blog list. The old battlewagon attacks anyone who she perceives to be a threat, and she doesn't care how low she has to sink to do it.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
7/9/2016 7:04 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Those are good points. Thanks for that!

    There seems to be some effort to keep up the pretense that nicelipss suspension was about her using F as her gender, and that it was also the basis for the former top blogger's Petition. There may be some minions of that blogger who are dumb enough to believe that. The truth is that nicelipss' only transgression was becoming popular enough to take over the top blogger spot herself. The new top blogger is clearly female and already the knives are coming out for her. Her fans are being threatened and emails denigrating her are being sent. This is an old pattern that has worked in the past to manipulate the blog list. The old battlewagon attacks anyone who she perceives to be a threat, and she doesn't care how low she has to sink to do it.
Kzoopair,

Happy weekend and Very sorry/angry to hear about this. Can you ask the members receiving these kind of emails and threats to keep a copy of them and the handles/members causing the issue so we can make sure that CS and Abuse receive copies and nip this madness in the bud. For some time now we've been discussing changing or doing away with this Blog list for this very reason.

Thank you,

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sexysixties2 72F  
39002 posts
7/9/2016 2:46 pm

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Kzoopair,

    Happy weekend and Very sorry/angry to hear about this. Can you ask the members receiving these kind of emails and threats to keep a copy of them and the handles/members causing the issue so we can make sure that CS and Abuse receive copies and nip this madness in the bud. For some time now we've been discussing changing or doing away with this Blog list for this very reason.

    Thank you,

    Ana6
Hi Ana....it must be years since our paths have crossed....maybe not since the active days of the "AdultFriendFinder is listening" Group.

You must know as well as I do that the site had agreed....after a lengthy campaign by bloggers....to abolish the list as is stood then and replace it with the trending, active and random lists. I am almost certain it was in 2013.

However the site back peddled because of very vocal complaints by the then top blogger and we now have the two systems running in tandem...list view or blogger view.

It doesn't matter how often people complain to Abuse and CS...very little is done when it comes to bullying or abuse and I hope you don't mind me saying....If the site is planning to get rid of "the list"....I would actually prefer to hear it from the site itself....even then I will believe it when I see it.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
7/9/2016 11:06 pm

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    Apparently she has ALWAYS been messaging others to tell them not to interact with certain members.....it was disclosed to me that this had happened with Bloggers I knew.....
    ....and there is a post of hers, with her alternate blog/profile, 'Message to the Resident Bitch'.....is just another example of her getting her 'Henchman' to troll whoever she wants targetted.....personally, I don't care what she thinks I do and don't do or me......
    But I do find it odd that she is allowed to troll folks with so many different profiles.....and so when one gets suspended, she is up and running with another....and is clearly, used for abuse and more attention....how many more will she be allowed


Hello Vixen,

Thank you for mentioning this. I watched the fall out from the petition and have just heard about these emails and messaging folks. Years back one of my friends in the UK went to my blog and posted about how great this member was..I'd never heard of her until then. I can tell you I saw the "Message to The Resident Bitch" post and viewed it and reported it. I no longer see the msg on site at this time. I have only ever had one profile and this is it. I never saw a reason to have a back up one or ghosting/spying profile. If a member has one as a backup plan, that is fine but if a member uses their multiple profiles to target people or pimp their own blog etc then that is not a good thing and needs to be brought to the attention of CS and Abuse. I will need to ask CS , Andrew and abuse but maybe there should be a limit on the number of profiles one member can have or use. Years back we had problem members ( males ) using hundreds of profiles to stalk and abuse members. I fought for a limit to be placed but the idea was not acted on at that time.

I was told the site is working on a way to protect all members and I am working on ways we can fix the damage the petition caused with our LBGT community. I am working on a blog post that is going to ask members what can or should be done to make sure the madness of the petition is NEVER repeated on site again. Every member is important and their rights should always be protected. No member should ever feel they are being excluded and no member has the right to go against the TOU and organize a lynch mob against ANY member.

Thanks for reaching out,

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
7/9/2016 11:19 pm

    Quoting sexysixties2:
    Hi Ana....it must be years since our paths have crossed....maybe not since the active days of the "AdultFriendFinder is listening" Group.

    You must know as well as I do that the site had agreed....after a lengthy campaign by bloggers....to abolish the list as is stood then and replace it with the trending, active and random lists. I am almost certain it was in 2013.

    However the site back peddled because of very vocal complaints by the then top blogger and we now have the two systems running in tandem...list view or blogger view.

    It doesn't matter how often people complain to Abuse and CS...very little is done when it comes to bullying or abuse and I hope you don't mind me saying....If the site is planning to get rid of "the list"....I would actually prefer to hear it from the site itself....even then I will believe it when I see it.

    Have a lovely weekend.

Hello Sexy,

How lovely to see you again. It has been awhile hasn't it ? Thank you, you are so right . I remember when the site created the new Blog lists. I was so happy because I suddenly discovered these amazing bloggers and their words that I did not know existed until then. Yes, I do recall the anger some bloggers felt due to the new way of listing and letting everyone be at the top of the list. That to me was the fairest way of handling the whole list. I know how bad the abuse and bullying can get here. I've spent more time on the phone with legal dept and CS & abuse then I'd care to remember. Fighting for either myself or on behalf of other members. I can tell you it is a battle worth fighting and things do get done. I brought this up again with Andrew when I gave him a full report on what had happened to Nice among others. I have asked that the list issue which seems to be causing no end of problems for all members be revisited. Why on Earth have a list when certain members are feeling excluded from or that they " Own " the top spot by right ? You know me, I never give up when I am fighting for everyone even when it seems I am fighting an uphill battle and alone in the fight. When I hear anything concrete I will let you know and ask that either Site Support or CS post something about this on the site.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
7/9/2016 11:29 pm

    Quoting  :

Hello Buni,

Happy Sat Night. Thank you for asking your question which I think I did answer before . No, I am not a paid employee of the site. The way we look at it is that I volunteer or intern on behalf of Andrew who is a friend of mine off site. I know how hard it is to fight the endless battles. I've been fighting behind the scenes for yrs ..for members, for employees , to get Andrew to come back and help work/fix on the site/company.

Yes, when I use the term "we've been discussing " it is in reference to whatever issue is currently affecting members. I went to Andrew with all the information in regards to the mess the nasty petition caused and cost us a well loved/admired member in Nice. As I mentioned to Vixen, I am working on some ideas to unify our community, especially our LBGT members who feel targeted at the moment or excluded from all of Us because of that so called petition. When I saw the petition was still on the site..I went straight to employees I trust in abuse and gave Andrew a full report on the whole situation. That is the " We " I was speaking of.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
7/9/2016 11:38 pm

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    I have reported the member, three of her profiles and her two blogs several times for abuse, harassment, etc. I have saved screen shots of the comments she has made about myself and others, including calling me a twat and shit disturber. I have reported her minions for the same, including posting my photo on their blog as a form of harassment. It. Never. Ends. I sure hopwe that you can influence the site because I am getting really tired of this.I used to post at least daily, I run the HNW group and am planning on attending a bloggers bash next year but have been posting less and less because of this blogger. So many great people have left here and it is really sad.
Missy,

Happy Sat Night. Thank you for letting us know about this. I used to think I was the only member who ever did any reporting of abuse. ( in those days the blogging community was not as large or as much of a voice as we are now ) Thank for taking the screen shots , keeping the evidence. If you'd like to share anything with me so I can personally hand it in and make sure something is done feel free to send it to me. Please believe me, I NEVER give up. I fought for this site and its members for yrs and I won't give in to problem members. I said once before that every time we lose a member it is like a light going out. The whole site becomes a darker, sadder place. WE need you posting and your group, HNW is one of our greatest groups and people always smile when it comes to HNW photo day. Thank you for hanging in there and not giving up.

Hang in there Missy & Happy Sun,

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sexysixties2 72F  
39002 posts
7/10/2016 8:16 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello Sexy,

    How lovely to see you again. It has been awhile hasn't it ? Thank you, you are so right . I remember when the site created the new Blog lists. I was so happy because I suddenly discovered these amazing bloggers and their words that I did not know existed until then. Yes, I do recall the anger some bloggers felt due to the new way of listing and letting everyone be at the top of the list. That to me was the fairest way of handling the whole list. I know how bad the abuse and bullying can get here. I've spent more time on the phone with legal dept and CS & abuse then I'd care to remember. Fighting for either myself or on behalf of other members. I can tell you it is a battle worth fighting and things do get done. I brought this up again with Andrew when I gave him a full report on what had happened to Nice among others. I have asked that the list issue which seems to be causing no end of problems for all members be revisited. Why on Earth have a list when certain members are feeling excluded from or that they " Own " the top spot by right ? You know me, I never give up when I am fighting for everyone even when it seems I am fighting an uphill battle and alone in the fight. When I hear anything concrete I will let you know and ask that either Site Support or CS post something about this on the site.

    Happy Weekend & Have a Great week to be Hugs,

    Ana6
Thanks for your response Ana....I really hope that you can help in ridding the site of bullying once and for all. It is after all, quite appalling that anyone can get away with treating a transgender person on this site in a manner which would be against the law in most modern civilisations. I really appreciate what you are doing here.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
25818 posts
7/10/2016 9:05 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello Vixen,

    Thank you for mentioning this. I watched the fall out from the petition and have just heard about these emails and messaging folks. Years back one of my friends in the UK went to my blog and posted about how great this member was..I'd never heard of her until then. I can tell you I saw the "Message to The Resident Bitch" post and viewed it and reported it. I no longer see the msg on site at this time. I have only ever had one profile and this is it. I never saw a reason to have a back up one or ghosting/spying profile. If a member has one as a backup plan, that is fine but if a member uses their multiple profiles to target people or pimp their own blog etc then that is not a good thing and needs to be brought to the attention of CS and Abuse. I will need to ask CS , Andrew and abuse but maybe there should be a limit on the number of profiles one member can have or use. Years back we had problem members ( males ) using hundreds of profiles to stalk and abuse members. I fought for a limit to be placed but the idea was not acted on at that time.

    I was told the site is working on a way to protect all members and I am working on ways we can fix the damage the petition caused with our LBGT community. I am working on a blog post that is going to ask members what can or should be done to make sure the madness of the petition is NEVER repeated on site again. Every member is important and their rights should always be protected. No member should ever feel they are being excluded and no member has the right to go against the TOU and organize a lynch mob against ANY member.

    Thanks for reaching out,

    Ana6
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kzoopair 69M/67F
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7/10/2016 9:32 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Kzoopair,

    Happy weekend and Very sorry/angry to hear about this. Can you ask the members receiving these kind of emails and threats to keep a copy of them and the handles/members causing the issue so we can make sure that CS and Abuse receive copies and nip this madness in the bud. For some time now we've been discussing changing or doing away with this Blog list for this very reason.

    Thank you,

    Ana6
Thanks. I'd be interested in hearing what the list might be replaced with. And I'd like to see a discussion forum if members' input is going to be considered. A number of members have talked to me about a rotating list. The blogs would be featured in a similar way to the three blogger photos that appear above the Most Active Blogs list. I'd enjoy hearing about other ideas as well. There does seem to be a consensus that the list lends itself to manipulation and to unhealthy competition for the top spot.

Something else that might be helpful would be to see some participation by actual paid employees of the site with some rank. I appreciate your comments on this post and I take you at your word that you're genuinely concerned, but frankly, I'd like to see the site put its money where its mouth is. Your input here has been helpful and pleasant and I hope you'll continue to interact with us, but the site administration should be demonstrating its good faith by spending some time and effort itself. A good way to begin might be to restore the "CEO" link that was formerly on the main blogs page. The site needs to back up what you're saying to us with some real action.

And! We're all kicking up a fuss because we love the blogging community here and we appreciate the forum that's been created here. This is a very good blogging venue. We want to make it better.

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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7/10/2016 11:01 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    The post "A Message to the Resident Bitch" is still on the Most Active Recent Posts list as of noon EST.
Yep, indeed it is....I haven't bothered to read the comments....but there can only be one purpose to it....target me and get folks to side with her.....

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7/10/2016 11:04 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Thanks. I'd be interested in hearing what the list might be replaced with. And I'd like to see a discussion forum if members' input is going to be considered. A number of members have talked to me about a rotating list. The blogs would be featured in a similar way to the three blogger photos that appear above the Most Active Blogs list. I'd enjoy hearing about other ideas as well. There does seem to be a consensus that the list lends itself to manipulation and to unhealthy competition for the top spot.

    Something else that might be helpful would be to see some participation by actual paid employees of the site with some rank. I appreciate your comments on this post and I take you at your word that you're genuinely concerned, but frankly, I'd like to see the site put its money where its mouth is. Your input here has been helpful and pleasant and I hope you'll continue to interact with us, but the site administration should be demonstrating its good faith by spending some time and effort itself. A good way to begin might be to restore the "CEO" link that was formerly on the main blogs page. The site needs to back up what you're saying to us with some real action.

    And! We're all kicking up a fuss because we love the blogging community here and we appreciate the forum that's been created here. This is a very good blogging venue. We want to make it better.
Ok....maybe I'm the only one and naive....but is it really the LIST or just mainly ONE constant bully?? She was top and yet constantly posted and commented negatively to others....so the reality is, it doesn't matter where she is on the list, she just posts hate....it's a simple as that....



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7/10/2016 11:30 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Ok....maybe I'm the only one and naive....but is it really the LIST or just mainly ONE constant bully?? She was top and yet constantly posted and commented negatively to others....so the reality is, it doesn't matter where she is on the list, she just posts hate....it's a simple as that....


You're not naive, and it isn't only the list. You're quite right that there is one blogger who's a poster child for bullies and spiteful behavior. But she isn't the only one who succumbs to list envy. It only takes one kid in the sandbox to spoil it for everyone and make a rules change necessary, but we've seen enough of the list to want to discuss a possible change. Banning one member won't change the structure here, and I'll say up front that even a change in the list format won't fix bullying behavior. But I think it WILL help, and that we should try it again.

I don't think it's possible for people to construct a perfect system. You have to keep amending it and fixing it to try to fine tune it and get it to work. People adapt and figure out ways to circumvent the rules and manipulate them, and in a way that's admirable. What isn't admirable is when they trample all over everyone else in the process.

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7/10/2016 11:46 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Yep, indeed it is....I haven't bothered to read the comments....but there can only be one purpose to it....target me and get folks to side with her.....
I'm blocked from reading any of this blogger's posts, at least the ones that belong to her profiles that are known to me. But I can still read a list and if a post is removed it shouldn't take hours to disappear from the list. So I'm confused by the remark that it's been removed and yet still shows upon the list.

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anastasia666 42F  
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7/11/2016 6:10 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Thanks. I'd be interested in hearing what the list might be replaced with. And I'd like to see a discussion forum if members' input is going to be considered. A number of members have talked to me about a rotating list. The blogs would be featured in a similar way to the three blogger photos that appear above the Most Active Blogs list. I'd enjoy hearing about other ideas as well. There does seem to be a consensus that the list lends itself to manipulation and to unhealthy competition for the top spot.

    Something else that might be helpful would be to see some participation by actual paid employees of the site with some rank. I appreciate your comments on this post and I take you at your word that you're genuinely concerned, but frankly, I'd like to see the site put its money where its mouth is. Your input here has been helpful and pleasant and I hope you'll continue to interact with us, but the site administration should be demonstrating its good faith by spending some time and effort itself. A good way to begin might be to restore the "CEO" link that was formerly on the main blogs page. The site needs to back up what you're saying to us with some real action.

    And! We're all kicking up a fuss because we love the blogging community here and we appreciate the forum that's been created here. This is a very good blogging venue. We want to make it better.
Dear Kzoopair,

Thank you for your message. I am in support of a rotating blog list where all sorts of blogs can be featured. Every blog should receive equal attention. I have been asking that a new Community manager be hired. The last 2 we had are friends of mine and did a brilliant job here. WE need that kind of input again. I have seen some of the employees posting to some blogs. I can mention all of this to Andrew. Andrew's blog is still on the site and I have a link to it on my blog but he does not check it as often as he did before. I do know there are employees who do check his blog. I can ask but it is their decision on how and where/when they interact with the site & members. If anyone wishes to send any evidence of abuse to me I will make certain it gets to the right people. You are also correct Sir, when you said the post to Resident is still on the site. I searched for it quickly the other night and had hoped it had been removed. I found it,again today and saw 4 pages of comments and have the link to report correctly now.

Have a Great Mon,

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
7/11/2016 6:20 am

    Quoting damnedvixen:
    Thank you for your response.....and I just want to say, I am really sorry if it appears we are grilling you and I hope you don't take our 'anger' personally.......
    For over 3 months I was pointing out to folks the 'not so subtle' digs that member was doing regarding Nicelipss.....but nothing was done, and in my communications with Nicelipss it was simply the other member wasn't using her 'name' and so nothing can be done.
    As far as I am concerned, the behaviour of the other member, in real life would NOT be tolerated, especially say, in a workplace. This member would not be allowed to whisper in the ears of other staff, that a certain colleague was formerly born a man and how dare 'he' want to be seen as F....and must be called T at all times.....
    WE ALL know that is not something we'd be allowed to do.....nor would we be allowed to DEMAND proof with pics of their genitalia and in the words of the other member, 'vaginally f*cking'......

    I really have no idea why someone with such an utter disregard of other folks entitlement to be on this site and 'who they want and interact with who they want', is allowed to continue? They've abused people left, right and centre for years......and all I know is, this Nicelipss was the final nail in the coffin for 'mistaken tolerance' of a bully.

    I'm glad others have finally stood up and prepared to talk about it.....and it not just dismissed as bickering between 'jealous women' as she'd like to claim.

    I have no personal issue against her, other than, she has told people not to interact with me, and where I comment, she has indicated in her comment that my views should be dimissed AND I'm unpleasant.

    I would say, that is the actions of an ongoing Bully......

    Sorry again that we are putting our troubles on your 'doorstep'.....

    Take care....

Dear Vixen,

Happy Mon You are very welcome for my reply. I never felt like you or any of our other wonderful members were grilling me. You cared enough to ask questions that I did My best to answer. I am still angry with myself that once I saw the petition I thought someone was going to delete it right away and alas as we found out that was not to be. I think we all know now that the blogger meant Nice and was determined to have her leave the site. I have been asking how we can bring Nice back (if she wishes) and to have her call CS and just come back. ( if she ever wants to, I wanted her to know the door is open and the abuse she suffered will NEVER be tolerated again, ) You are 100 % right that the kind of behavior would never be allowed in a work place and is a direct violation of the site's TOU. Bullying on site and should NEVER be tolerated against any member.

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anastasia666 42F  
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7/11/2016 6:23 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Ok....maybe I'm the only one and naive....but is it really the LIST or just mainly ONE constant bully?? She was top and yet constantly posted and commented negatively to others....so the reality is, it doesn't matter where she is on the list, she just posts hate....it's a simple as that....


Hello Resident,

Sad to say you are right..the blog post about you is still there. I did some searching and found it and will report it today. I understand what you are saying about the blog list..I have only heard of 1 blogger so concerned with being at the top of the list..so I think if the list rotates and shows all the blogs on site, introducing members to one another is a great way to keep the doors of communication open and get members to know one another through their blog posts. We need to stop the hate,.

Happy Mon,

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anastasia666 42F  
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7/11/2016 6:28 am

    Quoting sexysixties2:
    Thanks for your response Ana....I really hope that you can help in ridding the site of bullying once and for all. It is after all, quite appalling that anyone can get away with treating a transgender person on this site in a manner which would be against the law in most modern civilisations. I really appreciate what you are doing here.
Hello Sexy,

You're welcome for my words. It is great to see you. I am going to keep hammering away at the bullying & abuse that has gone on for far to long. NO Member should ever be targeted for abuse because they are either popular or a member of our LBGT community. The site has a strong TOU and we need to defend it and use it when cases like Nice's come up. You know me, I was raised to fight this kind of thing . I won't give up.

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anastasia666 42F  
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7/11/2016 6:37 am

    Quoting  :

Dear Buni,

Happy Monday. Sorry it has taken me this long to get back to this blog post. I am working on a report to hand in this morning . You are not grilling me anymore then Vixen was. The size of your hearts is showing in how much you care about your friend Nice & all members to protect & keep them safe on site from any kind of abuse or bullying,.

Please give Nice my regards and let her know how many of our members miss her. I know she left of her own choosing and a part of me is hoping she will come back so I can see her name on all the welcome back blog postings. I support whatever her choice is but her leaving is a loss for all of Us. I promise you Andrew is listening. I sent him a very long report and told him how sad/angry I am that we lost a valuable member like Nice. No one should ever have to go through what she lived through simply because she is popular and members loved her blogs.

You can send anything you'd like me to hand in to my email her on site and from you to me directly to Andrew & abuse dept. I promise you and Nice, I am not backing down, no one is.

Happy Mon,

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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7/14/2016 12:43 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello Vixen,

    Thank you for mentioning this. I watched the fall out from the petition and have just heard about these emails and messaging folks. Years back one of my friends in the UK went to my blog and posted about how great this member was..I'd never heard of her until then. I can tell you I saw the "Message to The Resident Bitch" post and viewed it and reported it. I no longer see the msg on site at this time. I have only ever had one profile and this is it. I never saw a reason to have a back up one or ghosting/spying profile. If a member has one as a backup plan, that is fine but if a member uses their multiple profiles to target people or pimp their own blog etc then that is not a good thing and needs to be brought to the attention of CS and Abuse. I will need to ask CS , Andrew and abuse but maybe there should be a limit on the number of profiles one member can have or use. Years back we had problem members ( males ) using hundreds of profiles to stalk and abuse members. I fought for a limit to be placed but the idea was not acted on at that time.

    I was told the site is working on a way to protect all members and I am working on ways we can fix the damage the petition caused with our LBGT community. I am working on a blog post that is going to ask members what can or should be done to make sure the madness of the petition is NEVER repeated on site again. Every member is important and their rights should always be protected. No member should ever feel they are being excluded and no member has the right to go against the TOU and organize a lynch mob against ANY member.

    Thanks for reaching out,

    Ana6
Thank you Ana6 if it was down to yourself to finally manage to get 'Message to the Resident Bitch' post removed....
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7/14/2016 3:43 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Thank you Ana6 if it was down to yourself to finally manage to get 'Message to the Resident Bitch' post removed....
    Have a fabulous day

Dear Resident,

Happy Thurs I am glad the the blog post was removed. My day was fabulous and now it is even better, thanks to you.

Have an awesome Thurs,

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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7/14/2016 1:02 pm

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Dear Resident,

    Happy Thurs I am glad the the blog post was removed. My day was fabulous and now it is even better, thanks to you.

    Have an awesome Thurs,

    Ana6
Thanks from me too, Ana.

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anastasia666 42F  
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7/14/2016 9:35 pm

Missy,

Happy Weekend & You're welcome. I was very happy to see this resolved for all concerned.

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anastasia666 42F  
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7/14/2016 9:38 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Thanks from me too, Ana.
Dear Kzoopair,

Happy Weekend . Thanks to all of you for keeping Nice front and center and standing up and calling attention to when a wrong is being done here against a fellow member.

You're Welcome & Thanks again for my smile,

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luciegirl2 51F  
507 posts
7/17/2016 4:24 pm

well dang! I have been away far too long. Now I know why I stayed away. If this person is/was being honest on who they really are then who are we to tell them NO? You're no longer top blogger, grow up and get over it!!


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7/17/2016 9:45 pm

    Quoting luciegirl2:
    well dang! I have been away far too long. Now I know why I stayed away. If this person is/was being honest on who they really are then who are we to tell them NO? You're no longer top blogger, grow up and get over it!!
Thanks Luciegirl. That's just how I see it too.

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7/21/2016 11:24 pm

    Quoting  :

I have no beef with the idea of top blogger. But I do have a complaint about what some people do to achieve it. I want to see it abolished. I don't expect fine writers to top the list on this site. It is in the end, as you say, chock full of horny men. When the competition gets so crass and opportunistic as it has been, it's time for a rule change.

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cedarman55 72M
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7/28/2016 4:08 pm

Got my vote,,keep the perverts away.......................


kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/3/2016 9:16 am

    Quoting cedarman55:
    Got my vote,,keep the perverts away.......................
What perverts? I don't understand your comment. It's vague.

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nicelipss66 44F
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8/4/2016 7:13 pm

Guys I am back, no worries, things will be Ok. nothing to worry about. Thank you for your concerns.

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8/4/2016 7:21 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    Guys I am back, no worries, things will be Ok. nothing to worry about. Thank you for your concerns.
I know. But we were mad. What happened was wrong! And there is still lingering carping and bitching about it, as if it were THEY and not you who was mistreated.

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nicelipss66 44F
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8/4/2016 7:33 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    I know. But we were mad. What happened was wrong! And there is still lingering carping and bitching about it, as if it were THEY and not you who was mistreated.
Yes, I seen that. is Ok, they turn will come

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8/4/2016 7:34 pm

Meant their turn will come. Not they. sorry about that.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/4/2016 7:55 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    Meant their turn will come. Not they. sorry about that.
I understood you, Thalia. We might have to help that turn come. That kind of harassment can't be tolerated.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/4/2016 9:41 pm

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    I cannot/will not view her posts but a t-girl contest? And internet "spam" pics as she puts it??? WTF???
Are we in Wonderland, Missy? It gets curiouser and curiouser.

NOW she's all politically correct, and the best friend the transgendered ever had? Fuck me runnin'!

Well....she IS a delicate flower with a sick pussy. Maybe the infection has spread.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/4/2016 9:44 pm

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    They have been awful and will be again. Just have to stay within the TOU and report them to the right people.
I agree with you, Missy. This is far from over.

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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8/6/2016 10:20 am

    Quoting  :

I am hoping the bullying that too place was just down to one particularly unpleasant person on this site, combined with a SH*T protection system for those bullied/trolled/abused online by certain individuals who totally disregarded our complaints against ONE individual.....

I've not seen gender bashing here before this 'episode' but, when ONE woman is intent on slating ALL other women on this site whatever size and shape, she can't really be expected to know where to draw the line.....so, she overstepped it because she believed she could get away with it.....
I'm sure most folks in the US would usually leave alone others, unless personally involved/interacted....

This is just ONE person on this site well known for making an Ass of herself.....and an inept reporting system for dealing with Abuse....


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8/6/2016 10:43 am

    Quoting 80SROCKR:
    The real truth here is not who the top blogger is (the top two currently being real women), but what the top blogger was pretending to be. This person is no longer the top blogger because the lie has been exposed. If this person were truthful they would still be the top blogger or would have never been the top blogger.
STILL think you have been given the CORRECT information or still blinkered by ONE version by a jealous Blogger who got knocked off the top yonks ago....rather than being dignified about it, prefers to Gender Bash.....I COULD be wrong, but online it is abuse, and in the REAL world, she could be prosecuted for such MALICIOUS gossip...and that is ALL it was, malicious gossip.....

And you STILL have respect for a WOMAN who throws out malicious gossip, JUST because she show vagina, ass and tits pics, but NEVER her face.....it's ok to BULLY others who DO.....

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8/6/2016 10:44 am

Maybe he is currently eating 'humble pie' rather than that crud clear coming from her pussy.....

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8/6/2016 11:09 am

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    Guys I am back, no worries, things will be Ok. nothing to worry about. Thank you for your concerns.
GREAT to see you back....our CONCERN is the same as we all hope others would have for us, if the tables were turned....so no need to 'THANK' us....there are some folks on this site who aren't plain MEAN just because they aren't getting 'laid'.....and gotta blame others for THEIR inadequacies......

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8/6/2016 11:12 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    Are we in Wonderland, Missy? It gets curiouser and curiouser.

    NOW she's all politically correct, and the best friend the transgendered ever had? Fuck me runnin'!

    Well....she IS a delicate flower with a sick pussy. Maybe the infection has spread.
I don't think she claimed to be a 'delicate' flower......but as she considers herself 'rare' and not like anyone else....we've concluded she is the corpse/carrion flower.....everyone looks at its ugly beauty but there is a foul stench around the place.... amp;

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8/6/2016 11:44 am

    Quoting 80SROCKR:
    The real truth here is not who the top blogger is (the top two currently being real women), but what the top blogger was pretending to be. This person is no longer the top blogger because the lie has been exposed. If this person were truthful they would still be the top blogger or would have never been the top blogger.
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8/6/2016 12:24 pm

    Quoting  :

It's shameful what conservative politics has brought us to.

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8/6/2016 12:27 pm

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    Canada is similar and I am so thankful for that. This shit blows my fucking mind!!!
It blows many of our minds too, Missy. It's no surprise to anyone that there are hateful bigots here- there are hateful bigots everywhere. What's really shocking is that they've managed to acquire such political clout in the United States.

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8/6/2016 12:33 pm

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    I am hoping the bullying that too place was just down to one particularly unpleasant person on this site, combined with a SH*T protection system for those bullied/trolled/abused online by certain individuals who totally disregarded our complaints against ONE individual.....

    I've not seen gender bashing here before this 'episode' but, when ONE woman is intent on slating ALL other women on this site whatever size and shape, she can't really be expected to know where to draw the line.....so, she overstepped it because she believed she could get away with it.....
    I'm sure most folks in the US would usually leave alone others, unless personally involved/interacted....

    This is just ONE person on this site well known for making an Ass of herself.....and an inept reporting system for dealing with Abuse....

Unfortunately the bigots and busybodies are doing a fairly effective job of shouting down tolerance lately. They won't win in the end, but these are scary times.

The troll with a big ass has no principles and therefore no shame. That seems to me to mirror the conservative demagogues who are only looking to win at any price. Look what it's brought us to- Donald J. Trump as the fascist candidate for president of a major political party. You might not be a bigot if you're a Republican, but if you're a bigot you're probably a Republican.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/6/2016 12:41 pm

    Quoting 80SROCKR:
    The real truth here is not who the top blogger is (the top two currently being real women), but what the top blogger was pretending to be. This person is no longer the top blogger because the lie has been exposed. If this person were truthful they would still be the top blogger or would have never been the top blogger.
Why has it been so difficult for you to get it through your head that there was no pretense by nicelipss? She is, as I stated in my post, honest about who and what she is. The pretense was perpetrated by a jealous former top blogger who will manufacture any slander to try to get back the position she once had. That blogger is no more than a troll. She knows she can't win on her own merits so she trashes and bullies other women to drive them away.

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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8/6/2016 2:37 pm

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Dear Kzoopair,

    Happy Weekend . Thanks to all of you for keeping Nice front and center and standing up and calling attention to when a wrong is being done here against a fellow member.

    You're Welcome & Thanks again for my smile,

    Ana6
Hi Ana, hope you're having a great weekend.....

Sorry BUT, could we ask what the Site can do about posts that are purely to poke fun at T people....it may seem subtle to the Site but it is clear the Abuser is pushing to see what she can get away with again, and enlisted the help of another who under the guise of 'asking' questions 'out of curiosity' and claiming 'no offence'....it is quite clear the intent IS malicious.....

We are pressing the Abuse button but it's clear the Site is not understanding the 'vague' bullying again and getting the BIGGER picture......

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8/6/2016 2:41 pm

Damn....I would have been tempted something like:

Sure, and do you really think that Sour Puss is actually interest in YOU but merely just another number.....how good does it feel to be judged by the Sour Puss as not good enough to MEET and also, not STRAIGHT....


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8/6/2016 3:32 pm

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Damn....I would have been tempted something like:

    Sure, and do you really think that Sour Puss is actually interest in YOU but merely just another number.....how good does it feel to be judged by the Sour Puss as not good enough to MEET and also, not STRAIGHT....

I was impressed with Thalia's restraint too. i suspect he's determined to see it only one way.

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anastasia666 42F  
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8/7/2016 1:19 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Hi Ana, hope you're having a great weekend.....

    Sorry BUT, could we ask what the Site can do about posts that are purely to poke fun at T people....it may seem subtle to the Site but it is clear the Abuser is pushing to see what she can get away with again, and enlisted the help of another who under the guise of 'asking' questions 'out of curiosity' and claiming 'no offence'....it is quite clear the intent IS malicious.....

    We are pressing the Abuse button but it's clear the Site is not understanding the 'vague' bullying again and getting the BIGGER picture......

    Best Regards....

Hello Resident,

Happy Weekend to you too. I am doing great & enjoying the Rio Games on tv. I spotted the new " blog " and the second one done in her " honour " and made sure to report both. The moment Nice returned here these new so called " blogs " were posted. Obviously she is doing this because Nice came back. What I will never understand in this horrible mess she created..why not just sit back, post her pix to her fans / members and enjoy being popular among her own little group ? Why get so jealous because another woman is popular ? Shouldn't she just be happy that ALL women on the site are receiving their share of popularity including herself ? As a Life long Blogger, I embrace all blogs and cheer for everyone who is writing , sharing ideas, words, concerns, fun and what ever photo they choose to share. I'd rather be in a group of like minded folks then feel the need to be Number 1 & always above others and afraid of other REAL women who have a right to post and share as much as she does. Nothing sadder then a woman who can not take other women being popular & enjoy seeing beautiful , smart women taking their turn in the spotlight. Happy Sun, Ana6

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8/7/2016 6:46 am

What's with the She Troll starting a fan club photo shoot with T girls- have any of you read her new idea. Come on people she needs to disappear. I cannot stand hypocrites!!!

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8/7/2016 7:38 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello Resident,

    Happy Weekend to you too. I am doing great & enjoying the Rio Games on tv. I spotted the new " blog " and the second one done in her " honour " and made sure to report both. The moment Nice returned here these new so called " blogs " were posted. Obviously she is doing this because Nice came back. What I will never understand in this horrible mess she created..why not just sit back, post her pix to her fans / members and enjoy being popular among her own little group ? Why get so jealous because another woman is popular ? Shouldn't she just be happy that ALL women on the site are receiving their share of popularity including herself ? As a Life long Blogger, I embrace all blogs and cheer for everyone who is writing , sharing ideas, words, concerns, fun and what ever photo they choose to share. I'd rather be in a group of like minded folks then feel the need to be Number 1 & always above others and afraid of other REAL women who have a right to post and share as much as she does. Nothing sadder then a woman who can not take other women being popular & enjoy seeing beautiful , smart women taking their turn in the spotlight. Happy Sun, Ana6
Dear Ana......thank you for your quick response.....
You can call me Bitch, it's okay....I don't get offended....
It's like when they call short people Tall, and large people Slim.....I'm the opposite to my name

You are absolutely correct, why is it so difficult to no just get on and be happy with the attention she already has?
Anyhow, I'd like to just say, though she may be a REAL woman, she certainly does not speak on my behalf as a 'real' woman, when criticising Nicelipss entitlement to be here as a 'real' woman too....

Hope something can be done to prevent further humiliation to members of the T community and those that genuinely support them, not just as 'novelty acts' to comment on...

Enjoy watching the Olympics....



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8/7/2016 8:00 am

    Quoting pocogato12:
    What's with the She Troll starting a fan club photo shoot with T girls- have any of you read her new idea. Come on people she needs to disappear. I cannot stand hypocrites!!!
That post was intentionally insulting. It's her way of telling her critics to go fuck themselves.

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8/7/2016 9:09 am

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    As I stated already this T girl contest is insulting. The language in itself is offensive. Gender dysphoria is a treatable illness. And protected as such. Do we make fun on those born with one leg? Do we throw dress up like a black person contests? Unless I was black that would be offensive right? Unless I identify as transgender or transsexual I should not be using works like T s, trannys, chicks with dicks and wigs, t girls. Etc. Shall we all dress up like bisexuals? Or let's have an erectile dysfunction contest? It's immature. Insulting. Ignorant. Derogatory. Abusive. I haveNEVER threatened to leave the site but this harassment is enough for me to close the HNW group and walk away. Ana has been advocating for us but she cannot do it alone. This is a sensitive subject before my managed in an ignorant way. I'm disgusted.
I understand what you are saying but NO honey, Don't think about leaving or closing your HNW group. that will not help. Things will get in a positive side around here. It does hurt to be seen that way or to read those things. But things will be Ok. Eventually the source of those comments will run out one way or another. No storm last forever. the sun will shine eventually. There are some good people in AdultFriendFinder. People that work here and Members. You are one of them. We already lost enough all these past 5 months. we don't want to lose you. Things will get taking care off and everything will go back to normal. You bring a lot to the site and to us members. Stayed with us

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8/7/2016 9:45 am

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    As I stated already this T girl contest is insulting. The language in itself is offensive. Gender dysphoria is a treatable illness. And protected as such. Do we make fun on those born with one leg? Do we throw dress up like a black person contests? Unless I was black that would be offensive right? Unless I identify as transgender or transsexual I should not be using works like T s, trannys, chicks with dicks and wigs, t girls. Etc. Shall we all dress up like bisexuals? Or let's have an erectile dysfunction contest? It's immature. Insulting. Ignorant. Derogatory. Abusive. I haveNEVER threatened to leave the site but this harassment is enough for me to close the HNW group and walk away. Ana has been advocating for us but she cannot do it alone. This is a sensitive subject before my managed in an ignorant way. I'm disgusted.
You have consistently stood up for women being harassed and abused in the blogs, Missy. Don't give up. I'm disgusted too, and that's exactly the response the trolls are looking for. This isn't a dispute that will ever be finished. There's a kind of nihilism in their behavior that denies any good in any of us. They repeatedly insult our intelligence as a way of asserting that we don't have any. Keep doing what you do- you're an example to others, and you have a great deal of influence.

Bloggers like those two think that everyone is essentially the same as they are- that we're all self centered and wantonly cruel, and they've convinced themselves that they're just doing this for laughs. The way to win at this is to be yourself, because you're better than that.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/7/2016 9:49 am

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    I understand what you are saying but NO honey, Don't think about leaving or closing your HNW group. that will not help. Things will get in a positive side around here. It does hurt to be seen that way or to read those things. But things will be Ok. Eventually the source of those comments will run out one way or another. No storm last forever. the sun will shine eventually. There are some good people in AdultFriendFinder. People that work here and Members. You are one of them. We already lost enough all these past 5 months. we don't want to lose you. Things will get taking care off and everything will go back to normal. You bring a lot to the site and to us members. Stayed with us
Thalia, you're exactly right. It's ugly right now because ugliness is what those two do- it's a specialty of theirs. Bloggers like Missy, and like you, are what makes the place worthwhile. There are indeed some very good people here, and we can outlast the trolls.

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nicelipss66 44F
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8/7/2016 12:22 pm

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    You are right Thalia. To go now would be the wrong thing to do. I don't ever say I'm leaving so you can tell I'm frustrated with stuff! I've commented on Scott's blog regarding SSDs insulting contest. And I've sent messages to the site as well. I will keep being me and keep advocating for the fair treatment of all. I love you, your positivity and strength.
Good for you Missy. I know it is frustrating. especially cause we all have to share this same space. I do know what you are saying. I felt that way many times before. but never let it get you down. you should stay standing like nothing is hitting you. Enjoy your time here with people that you like and that like you in return. Your friends. That is the best protection. I know that is how I was able to make it. cause all of you. I saw and felt all the love instead of the hate. I am actually working on a few new projects now, you guys will be so proud and surprised once I share all that with you. time will come. is all good things that came out of all those attacks. I even got a job offer haha, who would of tho, that is how we should work, to make out of negative things something positive. it is hard but possible. we just have to learn how and not lose sigh of who we are through the whole chaos or process.

Scott's blog, is that the one with the cat, or another posts, what blog is that, have a link?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/7/2016 2:03 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    Good for you Missy. I know it is frustrating. especially cause we all have to share this same space. I do know what you are saying. I felt that way many times before. but never let it get you down. you should stay standing like nothing is hitting you. Enjoy your time here with people that you like and that like you in return. Your friends. That is the best protection. I know that is how I was able to make it. cause all of you. I saw and felt all the love instead of the hate. I am actually working on a few new projects now, you guys will be so proud and surprised once I share all that with you. time will come. is all good things that came out of all those attacks. I even got a job offer haha, who would of tho, that is how we should work, to make out of negative things something positive. it is hard but possible. we just have to learn how and not lose sigh of who we are through the whole chaos or process.

    Scott's blog, is that the one with the cat, or another posts, what blog is that, have a link?
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8/7/2016 2:11 pm

Never mind, I saw the post in question. no need to say more.

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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8/7/2016 2:26 pm

I saw a great comment by someone, on a post by someone else supporting the Contest and its Blogger......just gone to look but strangely her comment got deleted but had implied that T people aren't 'novelty acts' for other folks entertainment....it was good....I wish I'd taken a picture....in future I think I will as she has some REAL CLASSIC put downs....she definately makes me an amateur bitch.....


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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/7/2016 5:50 pm

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    I saw a great comment by someone, on a post by someone else supporting the Contest and its Blogger......just gone to look but strangely her comment got deleted but had implied that T people aren't 'novelty acts' for other folks entertainment....it was good....I wish I'd taken a picture....in future I think I will as she has some REAL CLASSIC put downs....she definately makes me an amateur bitch.....

Missy has been saying that all long. Like, now we're going to make pets out the transgendered? Missy's outrage is well placed. That contest is supposed to demonstrate that all those "T" people just love Bully McBullshit.....and she loves "them". In fact it was just meant to be irritating. This is what passes for blogging in their world.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
8/7/2016 10:39 pm

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Dear Ana......thank you for your quick response.....
    You can call me Bitch, it's okay....I don't get offended....
    It's like when they call short people Tall, and large people Slim.....I'm the opposite to my name

    You are absolutely correct, why is it so difficult to no just get on and be happy with the attention she already has?
    Anyhow, I'd like to just say, though she may be a REAL woman, she certainly does not speak on my behalf as a 'real' woman, when criticising Nicelipss entitlement to be here as a 'real' woman too....

    Hope something can be done to prevent further humiliation to members of the T community and those that genuinely support them, not just as 'novelty acts' to comment on...

    Enjoy watching the Olympics....


Hello RB,

I can not call you the B word when you are no where near the description of that word. I ask myself all the time, with everything this site has gone through over the yrs..the sale to P House, then Andrew coming back and now this. The one thing all members should do is treat each other with respect and tolerance. This is an adult site after all and not Kindergarten or Jr High popularity contest. I have watched the site lose wonderful members, male and female who just left or were bullied & abused into leaving. I keep seeing messages from men all over the site..."WHERE are the real women / people at ? " Instead of sitting on top of an empty blogging throne, she should be encouraging REAL people to stay, to be respectful and tolerant of ALL members or she will be soon be all alone on that empty throne sitting on her blogs with no one to look at her or soothe the fragile ego.. Yes, also noticed the other blog making fun of the LBGTQ community by one of her " men ." At least the site can now see what these abusive members are up to and put a stop to it. Olympics are awesome & am enjoying it all Happy Mon , Ana6

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
9132 posts
8/8/2016 3:35 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello RB,

    I can not call you the B word when you are no where near the description of that word. I ask myself all the time, with everything this site has gone through over the yrs..the sale to P House, then Andrew coming back and now this. The one thing all members should do is treat each other with respect and tolerance. This is an adult site after all and not Kindergarten or Jr High popularity contest. I have watched the site lose wonderful members, male and female who just left or were bullied & abused into leaving. I keep seeing messages from men all over the site..."WHERE are the real women / people at ? " Instead of sitting on top of an empty blogging throne, she should be encouraging REAL people to stay, to be respectful and tolerant of ALL members or she will be soon be all alone on that empty throne sitting on her blogs with no one to look at her or soothe the fragile ego.. Yes, also noticed the other blog making fun of the LBGTQ community by one of her " men ." At least the site can now see what these abusive members are up to and put a stop to it. Olympics are awesome & am enjoying it all Happy Mon , Ana6
Morning Ana.....
Ok....no worried....maybe IF it was all over, I'll go back to being demure damnedvixen.....

Oh absolutely, couldn't agree more.....
I'm afraid I just can't remotely understand anyone who would re-enforce male ideas that they have a right to treat women who use this site as mere holes for their penis....when we know if they were on another, their approach would be ALL CHARM and maybe even respect.....
Even worse, many of us know that behaviour encouraged online can spill out in to the real world......and many point out, would any of us want members of our own family or friends to behave with such contempt for women? Or be on receiving end of such VILE and abusive behaviour and thoughts?

Thank you for your patience at replying to out moans....

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/8/2016 7:58 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello RB,

    I can not call you the B word when you are no where near the description of that word. I ask myself all the time, with everything this site has gone through over the yrs..the sale to P House, then Andrew coming back and now this. The one thing all members should do is treat each other with respect and tolerance. This is an adult site after all and not Kindergarten or Jr High popularity contest. I have watched the site lose wonderful members, male and female who just left or were bullied & abused into leaving. I keep seeing messages from men all over the site..."WHERE are the real women / people at ? " Instead of sitting on top of an empty blogging throne, she should be encouraging REAL people to stay, to be respectful and tolerant of ALL members or she will be soon be all alone on that empty throne sitting on her blogs with no one to look at her or soothe the fragile ego.. Yes, also noticed the other blog making fun of the LBGTQ community by one of her " men ." At least the site can now see what these abusive members are up to and put a stop to it. Olympics are awesome & am enjoying it all Happy Mon , Ana6
If the site were worthless all this would be a moot point. Members would treat it as just another sleazy porn site and move on. Many do already, and the behavior you describe contributes to that.

I think though that Conru was on to something when he started the site, and for me the best part of it is in the blogs. This has been a very good blogging venue and it's worth fixing. We have a remarkable amount of freedom of expression here. Bigotry and abuse don't need to be a part of that speech, and can't be if the site is going to be inclusive. When they are, it turns into a free for all where the meanest son of a bitch always wins.

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anastasia666 42F  
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8/9/2016 2:35 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    If the site were worthless all this would be a moot point. Members would treat it as just another sleazy porn site and move on. Many do already, and the behavior you describe contributes to that.

    I think though that Conru was on to something when he started the site, and for me the best part of it is in the blogs. This has been a very good blogging venue and it's worth fixing. We have a remarkable amount of freedom of expression here. Bigotry and abuse don't need to be a part of that speech, and can't be if the site is going to be inclusive. When they are, it turns into a free for all where the meanest son of a bitch always wins.

    The Active Blogs List needs to change. It won't end the competition for numbers but it will stop showcasing it.
Kzoopair,

Thank you for reinforcing what I've been saying for 6+ yrs. I never thought this site was worthless, if I did, I would not be fighting so hard to get things fixed, to protect members and talk to management.This site was created to let people have a free, safe environment to make connections, network, make friends and have fun. Andrew created Blings and fought to keep them here..same with the blogs. He loves creativity and he wants this bullying & nonsense to end. He and I had a very long discussion about the attack on Nice and what that cost this site in great members we can not afford to lose. You are right we need to change that active blog list. Without it, No member has a reason (and never had the right to do so) to bully more popular members. I can not understand what drives some members to engage in such horrible behavior. I think we need to have the TOU posted everywhere on site. I am a great believer in second chances but right now, I am out of patience with the troublemakers on this site.

Happy Tues,

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
8/9/2016 2:59 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Morning Ana.....
    Ok....no worried....maybe IF it was all over, I'll go back to being demure damnedvixen.....

    Oh absolutely, couldn't agree more.....
    I'm afraid I just can't remotely understand anyone who would re-enforce male ideas that they have a right to treat women who use this site as mere holes for their penis....when we know if they were on another, their approach would be ALL CHARM and maybe even respect.....
    Even worse, many of us know that behaviour encouraged online can spill out in to the real world......and many point out, would any of us want members of our own family or friends to behave with such contempt for women? Or be on receiving end of such VILE and abusive behaviour and thoughts?

    Thank you for your patience at replying to out moans....

    Have a great day

Hello RB,

Happy Tues. I have done what I can over the yrs to advise men on the best ways to approach the ladies. Using them, dick pix, and one word emails are a Giant NO..so using women as mere holes or insulting other women because they are trying to please a blogger is ALL WRONG. They claim they join this site to make friends & meet women then start posting blogs against female members or comment on disgusting blogs meant to humiliate a woman blogger. I agree, this kind of grotesque behavior can not be allowed or tolerated any further. Had the situation been reversed and the blogger who started this mess been on the receiving end of the hatred she fueled against others..She would be screaming for this site to shut down, cancel memberships and ban everyone from being a member here. You'd think one, just one of her " friends " would take her aside and say " Stop the hate & grateful for what you have. " No Member should have to put up with this kind of stupidity and cruelty. I hope we can end this nonsense NOW.

Happy Tues,

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
9132 posts
8/9/2016 5:01 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello RB,

    Happy Tues. I have done what I can over the yrs to advise men on the best ways to approach the ladies. Using them, dick pix, and one word emails are a Giant NO..so using women as mere holes or insulting other women because they are trying to please a blogger is ALL WRONG. They claim they join this site to make friends & meet women then start posting blogs against female members or comment on disgusting blogs meant to humiliate a woman blogger. I agree, this kind of grotesque behavior can not be allowed or tolerated any further. Had the situation been reversed and the blogger who started this mess been on the receiving end of the hatred she fueled against others..She would be screaming for this site to shut down, cancel memberships and ban everyone from being a member here. You'd think one, just one of her " friends " would take her aside and say " Stop the hate & grateful for what you have. " No Member should have to put up with this kind of stupidity and cruelty. I hope we can end this nonsense NOW.

    Happy Tues,

    Ana6
Had the situation been reversed and the blogger who started this mess been on the receiving end of the hatred she fueled against others..She would be screaming for this site to shut down, cancel memberships and ban everyone from being a member here. You'd think one, just one of her " friends " would take her aside and say " Stop the hate & grateful for what you have. "

Hiya Ana.....hope things are well with yourself.....

Well, it's a fact that she has done that.....and repeatedly.....
...and hence why I have a different username...which I do like actually...so sometimes good things come out as a result of her being offended at others gall for standing up but clearly not often....
And I gather, in the 'petition' that was done, many fair-minded folks and some in a reasonable manner, did indeed ask her to stop.....most she Blocked and deleted their comments.....
So, what can one do when a person refuses to 'live and let live' on this site and yet expects everyone else to ignore tantrums and slurs against others


In the UK, our laws seem to be much tougher about what can be said online to another....not showing a face and hiding behind a computer is no protection for anyone humiliating another based on their colour, gender, sexuality....even on a 'dating site'.....
My mind is boggled as to why it is allowed on this one?

I know you can't answer that......but I think most of us reasonable and respectful minded folks are confused that such intolerance of others is allowed......and yet when I've told men in a polite and fully explained way to treat women better if they expect sex, they are told me and my opinions should be ignored, by this other person....

She is one very strange cookie......

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8/9/2016 10:40 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Kzoopair,

    Thank you for reinforcing what I've been saying for 6+ yrs. I never thought this site was worthless, if I did, I would not be fighting so hard to get things fixed, to protect members and talk to management.This site was created to let people have a free, safe environment to make connections, network, make friends and have fun. Andrew created Blings and fought to keep them here..same with the blogs. He loves creativity and he wants this bullying & nonsense to end. He and I had a very long discussion about the attack on Nice and what that cost this site in great members we can not afford to lose. You are right we need to change that active blog list. Without it, No member has a reason (and never had the right to do so) to bully more popular members. I can not understand what drives some members to engage in such horrible behavior. I think we need to have the TOU posted everywhere on site. I am a great believer in second chances but right now, I am out of patience with the troublemakers on this site.

    Happy Tues,

    Ana6
I appreciate your comments here, your interaction with us about this and your efforts to make positive changes. I know very well we can't eradicate all bad behavior and the site probably wouldn't be much fun if if it were rigidly policed to ban every incendiary remark or rude post. The harassment that nicelipss endured and her subsequent suspension crossed a line of basic decency that was also timely- it mirrored the scapegoating of gay and transgendered people in the nation at large. That it was done in competition for the top spot on the list made it high profile.

Which brings us back again to the list, which I'm inclined to keep bitching about. I want to see that list changed. I'm open to suggestions about what form a new list might take, but I'm sure something that at least dampens the competition for numbers can be devised. At present we aren't even able to discuss the recent change- for the worse- in the list because site support is still in denial about it. Firstly, that it had changed at all, and secondly that it had ever been sorted differently. How do you have a talk with someone who insists on denying the obvious? Are the blogs that unimportant to them?

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
8/10/2016 5:30 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    I appreciate your comments here, your interaction with us about this and your efforts to make positive changes. I know very well we can't eradicate all bad behavior and the site probably wouldn't be much fun if if it were rigidly policed to ban every incendiary remark or rude post. The harassment that nicelipss endured and her subsequent suspension crossed a line of basic decency that was also timely- it mirrored the scapegoating of gay and transgendered people in the nation at large. That it was done in competition for the top spot on the list made it high profile.

    Which brings us back again to the list, which I'm inclined to keep bitching about. I want to see that list changed. I'm open to suggestions about what form a new list might take, but I'm sure something that at least dampens the competition for numbers can be devised. At present we aren't even able to discuss the recent change- for the worse- in the list because site support is still in denial about it. Firstly, that it had changed at all, and secondly that it had ever been sorted differently. How do you have a talk with someone who insists on denying the obvious? Are the blogs that unimportant to them?
Dear Kzoopair,

Happy Wed Thank you for your kind words & message. Thank you for allowing us all to share our thoughts on this situation. I am in total agreement with you about the abuse & that darn list. Years back I was talking to the head of legal dept and I was mentioning some abuse ( which was light and nothing like what Nice & Our LBGTQ community have faced here ) and he and I agreed that a chat room brew ha ha involving " You're a B*&&&.." was NOT a banning offense but that was yrs ago when this place was full of amazing members and the insults were about that level.. Now the abuse and bullying has reached levels I have never seen. ( and believe me, on this site, I've seen just about everything )

The thing that just frustrates me is what I keep going back to. Men joined this site to meet, talk and perhaps go out with the Women who are on this site...Ok I get that...I am not here to date but to help..as a Woman if I see a man calling any woman or man insulting names, degrading them, making fun of them..I would walk away as fast as I could from that member and quietly let all the women members know that this was NOT the kind of man they want to spend time with. In the end the insulting man thinks he is so cool & awesome for hurting, bullying and abusing women and then wonders why NONE of the women he sends messages to reply. As a Woman I believe in supporting and cheering on my friends & fellow women. I LOVE seeing one of my friends or a woman I admire receive attention in a positive light. How great a feeling that is. It would never occur to me to be upset because another woman has a higher position then I do on that blasted list. Yes, I noticed the Blog list mess and the glitch and am about to send Andrew another alert on the need to change or just get rid of the damm thing. Instead of showing us all a large group of blogs we might not have seen or read, it has created a jealous chasm with members pitted against each other. The site does care about our blogging community. After all the Bloggers are the most vocal members on site, are the members first to notice and report a bad incident or glitch. I have seen members be thanked by the site time and time again for catching something they missed.

I promise you EVERYTHING is being reported and compiled into a large report for management to see. There will be changes. Once again, I won't give up.

Happy Wed,

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
8/10/2016 5:46 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Had the situation been reversed and the blogger who started this mess been on the receiving end of the hatred she fueled against others..She would be screaming for this site to shut down, cancel memberships and ban everyone from being a member here. You'd think one, just one of her " friends " would take her aside and say " Stop the hate & grateful for what you have. "

    Hiya Ana.....hope things are well with yourself.....

    Well, it's a fact that she has done that.....and repeatedly.....
    ...and hence why I have a different username...which I do like actually...so sometimes good things come out as a result of her being offended at others gall for standing up but clearly not often....
    And I gather, in the 'petition' that was done, many fair-minded folks and some in a reasonable manner, did indeed ask her to stop.....most she Blocked and deleted their comments.....
    So, what can one do when a person refuses to 'live and let live' on this site and yet expects everyone else to ignore tantrums and slurs against others


    In the UK, our laws seem to be much tougher about what can be said online to another....not showing a face and hiding behind a computer is no protection for anyone humiliating another based on their colour, gender, sexuality....even on a 'dating site'.....
    My mind is boggled as to why it is allowed on this one?

    I know you can't answer that......but I think most of us reasonable and respectful minded folks are confused that such intolerance of others is allowed......and yet when I've told men in a polite and fully explained way to treat women better if they expect sex, they are told me and my opinions should be ignored, by this other person....

    She is one very strange cookie......

    Have a fabulous day Ana....


Hello RB,

Happy Wed Things good here, thanks for asking and I hope the same for you. I am aware and I promise you, so is the site/abuse about exactly how much this member has said and done. I also heard when members posted on the obscene petition in a negative light..those remarks were deleted and members banned. I have heard of women who do not like or tolerate other women but I am not friends with anyone like that. When I was a kid I had a pal like that who would talk to me but ignore any girl who walked up to me and stare at them as if they were not there. She just explained " I do not like women " I was so young it made no sense to me. It still doesn't. Some women just do not like other women or feel jealous if folks like them better. No amount of " Please Behave and Play Nice " will work. The Blogger & her entourage are set in Their ways. As I said to KZoopair, the site is aware ,Andrew knows, there are things going on behind the scenes and hopefully very soon this will all be a very bad memory.

Have a wonderful #WickedWed,

Ana6

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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8/11/2016 2:13 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Hello RB,

    Happy Wed Things good here, thanks for asking and I hope the same for you. I am aware and I promise you, so is the site/abuse about exactly how much this member has said and done. I also heard when members posted on the obscene petition in a negative light..those remarks were deleted and members banned. I have heard of women who do not like or tolerate other women but I am not friends with anyone like that. When I was a kid I had a pal like that who would talk to me but ignore any girl who walked up to me and stare at them as if they were not there. She just explained " I do not like women " I was so young it made no sense to me. It still doesn't. Some women just do not like other women or feel jealous if folks like them better. No amount of " Please Behave and Play Nice " will work. The Blogger & her entourage are set in Their ways. As I said to KZoopair, the site is aware ,Andrew knows, there are things going on behind the scenes and hopefully very soon this will all be a very bad memory.

    Have a wonderful #WickedWed,

    Ana6
Thank you Ana for your responses to myself and others.....

One day I hope to be able to 'mind my own business' and move on from this....
But some actions and words are impossible to ignore, especially when you know it wouldn't have been tolerated in the 'real' world.

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anastasia666 42F  
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8/11/2016 7:00 am

    Quoting ethicalslutMissy:
    Glad things are happening. The bike dude is getting pretty bad with titles like this -Is the word Transgender just a dressed up more fancy way of saying cross dresser?? He seems to do it whenever nl posts.
Hi Missy,

Happy Thurs. Thank you for drawing our attn to these so called Blogs which are nothing but a sick cry for attn. Believe Me, the site is aware of what is going on. I promise you a fix to this problem is on its way. Thank you for sharing the link to the jackass blog post where the gentleman apologized for his mistake in dealing with that petition. Proud of a member who chose to stand up and publicly apologize for his actions.

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anastasia666 42F  
2086 posts
8/11/2016 7:04 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Thank you Ana for your responses to myself and others.....

    One day I hope to be able to 'mind my own business' and move on from this....
    But some actions and words are impossible to ignore, especially when you know it wouldn't have been tolerated in the 'real' world.

    Have a fabulous day


Dear RB,

Happy Thurs I am proud of you and all the wonderful members who stood up for Nice. That took great courage and truly shows what great members we have on this site. I have been telling management this for yrs..Thanks to all of you for proving me right NEVER stop speaking about something and someone you feel passionate about. You are so right. In the Real world the actions of a few here would not be tolerated for one moment.

Have an awesome Day ,

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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8/16/2016 10:33 am

    Quoting anastasia666:
    Dear RB,

    Happy Thurs I am proud of you and all the wonderful members who stood up for Nice. That took great courage and truly shows what great members we have on this site. I have been telling management this for yrs..Thanks to all of you for proving me right NEVER stop speaking about something and someone you feel passionate about. You are so right. In the Real world the actions of a few here would not be tolerated for one moment.

    Have an awesome Day ,

    Ana6
Happy Tuesday Ana.....thank you for your words, but its really nothing and can only hope, if any of us are ever in the same situation, we too will get the support needed....


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8/16/2016 11:24 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Happy Tuesday Ana.....thank you for your words, but its really nothing and can only hope, if any of us are ever in the same situation, we too will get the support needed....

It isn't nothing to keep on doing the right thing and not give up. So many people get weary of it and quit in despair. A lot more never even start. Whatever good comes of this, you deserve a lot of the credit for making it happen. Don't sell yourself short.

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anastasia666 42F  
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8/17/2016 4:15 am

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    Happy Tuesday Ana.....thank you for your words, but its really nothing and can only hope, if any of us are ever in the same situation, we too will get the support needed....

Dear RB,

Thank you for this lovely message. i hope that no other member will have to suffer as Nice did due to the bullies/blog list. I promise you and all our members that I will do everything in my power to help protect ALL against those who seek to harm , bully, lie, threaten or stalk.

Hugs & MANY Thanks for the Beautiful Post you did in my Name,

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/24/2016 5:06 pm

    Quoting asslover34xxx:
    I'm good friends with a few trans women...personally I just see them as women, regardless of what's between their legs.
You get it, where many fail to understand! Thanks for that comment, ass lover.

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fordfire4 44M  
272 posts
8/24/2016 8:58 pm

Kzoopair, I have a very good friend that happens to be transgender, born female, identifies male. He absolutely HATES the "bathroom law" movement. He and I talked about Target's bathroom policy and he stopped shopping there because of it. As he stated "a month ago, people didn't understand me because of my identity, but now because of these laws and policies, they hate me" And he brought up a very valid point, most people that are opposed to the laws are opposed to tgem because it does literally open the door for pedophiles and sex offenders. He showed me a case in Missouri that happened at Target. Their bathroom policy went into effect on a Friday, on Monday, a registered sex offender and convicted pedophile was arrested in the women's changing room holding his cell phone over the top of the wall and videotaping and 11 year old girl as she changed. This disgusting individual took advantage of the policy and an 11 year old girl paid the price. When police questioned the employees as to why they let the man in the women's changing room, their answer was "because of the new policy, we weren't allowed to stop him because we might have offended him". I am 100% for non discrimination and for equal rights, but I agree with my friend Mike when he says that the bathroom laws are not the place to start. He has worked with many of the schools here to develop policies for transgender students on this and they are working out well, from using the "family bathroom" to using single stall faculty restrooms if a family bathroom us not available.


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8/24/2016 9:33 pm

    Quoting fordfire4:
    Kzoopair, I have a very good friend that happens to be transgender, born female, identifies male. He absolutely HATES the "bathroom law" movement. He and I talked about Target's bathroom policy and he stopped shopping there because of it. As he stated "a month ago, people didn't understand me because of my identity, but now because of these laws and policies, they hate me" And he brought up a very valid point, most people that are opposed to the laws are opposed to tgem because it does literally open the door for pedophiles and sex offenders. He showed me a case in Missouri that happened at Target. Their bathroom policy went into effect on a Friday, on Monday, a registered sex offender and convicted pedophile was arrested in the women's changing room holding his cell phone over the top of the wall and videotaping and 11 year old girl as she changed. This disgusting individual took advantage of the policy and an 11 year old girl paid the price. When police questioned the employees as to why they let the man in the women's changing room, their answer was "because of the new policy, we weren't allowed to stop him because we might have offended him". I am 100% for non discrimination and for equal rights, but I agree with my friend Mike when he says that the bathroom laws are not the place to start. He has worked with many of the schools here to develop policies for transgender students on this and they are working out well, from using the "family bathroom" to using single stall faculty restrooms if a family bathroom us not available.
If your friend disagrees with laws like the one passed in North Carolina, then your friend and I agree. But I don't see how Target's bathroom policy opens up any door for pedophiles and sex offenders that wasn't already open. And I can't see how North Carolina's law closes any door that was not already closed.

If employees at Target failed to do their jobs, that is indeed Target's responsibility.

What I see is that transgendered persons are being scapegoated to further the careers of conservative politicians who love nothing more than a chance to thumb their noses at the Obama administration by defying the guidelines set forth in answer to issues regarding bathroom use by transgendered students in American schools. The safety of other bathroom users was never further from their minds. If you can point me to that news item I'd love to read it. But all I was able to locate are stories on the American Family Values website, along with a few other right wing websites, and I don't credit those at all. It doesn't surprise me a bit that the only sources I could locate are all right wing socially conservative sites. I wonder if they might have some agenda?

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/28/2016 7:31 pm

    Quoting cheyennerhayn2:
    ROFLMFAO! On a sex site and calling others perverts. That's rich!


    On the up side, good to know that I am not a pervert, due to the simple fact that I was actually born female. Hold on. Have to let everyone know. Wtf?!
Good call, cheyennerhayn2. I'd like to see more of you in here.

Maybe some day people will just have sex with anyone they want and not have to explain themselves. Or Label themselves.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/29/2016 8:37 am

    Quoting cheyennerhayn2:
    Shit! I knew I shouldn't have kept reading. I knew something was going to set me off.

    Sorry kzoopair! Feel free to delete my last comment.
No. You go, girl. You're doing just fine! Don't even think of backing off.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/29/2016 4:55 pm

    Quoting cheyennerhayn2:
    Thank you! I really need to get one of those filter thingys for my brain...and apparently, my fingers too. Some things just really chap my ass and I think about what I say (or, in this case, type) AFTER the fact. Ignorance is bliss...unfortunately, I'm not ignorant. No worries though..I stopped reading comments after I responded to the last one or I may have taken an entire page of your blog.

    Anywaaaaayy...great post and thank you for the warm welcome...and for not getting upset with me. And I SHALL try and show some restraint in the future...please note..I DID say TRY. lol However, should I fail, I won't be offended if you delete my comment..just please give me a heads up before banning me. lol
Please come back and finish reading. This post turned into a sort of impromptu open forum. I ended up just being the moderator. I LIKED hosting this, and I was pleased that so many people felt strongly enough about it to comment and engage, and that so many were willing to show support for a well loved and respected blogger.

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nicelipss66 44F
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8/30/2016 12:26 pm

I am glad to see that the awful petition didn't work for her. the whole thing was painful to read. Targeting people for their gender or sexual orientation is NEVER good. I am so glad that members in their grand majority said NO to it. and that AdultFriendFinder said NO to it as well. Things like that evil wrong petition and other evil things she said. Those were the things that sink her own ship. I am so glad and thankful that AdultFriendFinder saw everything for what it is.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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8/30/2016 1:23 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    I am glad to see that the awful petition didn't work for her. the whole thing was painful to read. Targeting people for their gender or sexual orientation is NEVER good. I am so glad that members in their grand majority said NO to it. and that AdultFriendFinder said NO to it as well. Things like that evil wrong petition and other evil things she said. Those were the things that sink her own ship. I am so glad and thankful that AdultFriendFinder saw everything for what it is.

    Hope you are having a good day Bill. things are good here my friend
Thalia, my friend, I'm glad to see that Petition gone too, and I'm ready to put it behind me. That doesn't mean I'll forget it. I'll never forget what we did here and what you did here. It might not have worked for a different person than you. You had integrity and courage and you fought back with dignity. I'm very proud of you and I'm proud to call you my friend.

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rm_HUGEDIMYASS 52M
16 posts
9/20/2016 2:43 am

I WISH I NEVER WONDERED INTO THIS BLOG. ME I DO NOT CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO. I AM NOT A COP NOR AM I THERE MOMMY OR DADDY. SO I ALWAYS TAKE MY MOTHER ADVICE, " MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. I AM NOT TRYING TO GET ON ANYBODY'S SIDE, EXCEPT DID YOU EVER HEAR THE EXPRESSION. " LIVE AND LET DIE ".

" PEACE OUT "


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9/20/2016 7:57 am

    Quoting rm_HUGEDIMYASS:
    I WISH I NEVER WONDERED INTO THIS BLOG. ME I DO NOT CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO. I AM NOT A COP NOR AM I THERE MOMMY OR DADDY. SO I ALWAYS TAKE MY MOTHER ADVICE, " MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. I AM NOT TRYING TO GET ON ANYBODY'S SIDE, EXCEPT DID YOU EVER HEAR THE EXPRESSION. " LIVE AND LET DIE ".
"I ALWAYS TAKE MY MOTHER ADVICE, " MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS."

So why aren't you doing that?
Do you know your caps lock is stuck on?

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TraciVa 60T  
10 posts
9/20/2016 10:28 am

Idiotic...we are what we are and hide nothing...most of us love life and do our best to blend into society. All we ask is a fair shake at life just like you or any other person.
Frankly, it's silly the way some "compete" in here...
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kzoopair 69M/67F
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9/20/2016 2:10 pm

    Quoting TraciVa:
    Idiotic...we are what we are and hide nothing...most of us love life and do our best to blend into society. All we ask is a fair shake at life just like you or any other person.
    Frankly, it's silly the way some "compete" in here...
    #LoveLife
    Xoxo
It's certainly silly much of the time, but that petition went far beyond silly and over the line into harassment. I know nicelipss66 to be honest and I could not watch her be abused as she was.

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9/23/2016 5:22 am

    Quoting  :

Nice one....

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Resident_Bitch 103M/103F  
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9/23/2016 5:35 am

    Quoting cheyennerhayn2:
    Wow. just wow.

    So here when someone searches for Women they must be very careful that looking at a biological born female when that is what they want.

    They must be very careful? Maybe, but in this case, they just need to learn to fucking READ before sending messages (kinda like I did. See, I knew she was transgender before I read any of this stuff) !!...yeah, I know...novel concept...never gonna happen...asking WAY too much!

    And before you say anything about how standard members can't read profiles, please explain to me how that is HER fault?? I understand people not wanting to pay for membership given all the site's issues. That's THEIR prerogative, but they need to understand there are downsides to that as well and to blame a member because they can't read profiles is ridiculous.

    But yeah, we ALL "must be very careful" when searching given so MANY men flat out LIE about everything including their sexual orientation! Claiming to be straight yet their "favorite photos" are nothing but cock shots and they are commenting on photos and videos of gay and bi sexual men. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but that makes them, at the very least, bi-curious. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying...be honest (you know, kinda like the top blogger is...)
Absolutely.....I thought that was the point in Gold/someone paying.....to READ profiles....does seem odd that folks want to be able to do EVERYTHING for free....but don't want to go to a Site that is FREE.....


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10/11/2016 10:53 am

    Quoting  :

We are hoping the Site will learn to 'nip it in the bud' as soon as someone persists targets/stalks/harrass, from now on.....

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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10/11/2016 4:22 pm

    Quoting  :

Frankly- many of us commenting here have been referred to as bullies and "blog police" for speaking out against this nastiness. That's bullshit of course, but people don't like to have unpleasantness talked about. They often want to pretend it isn't happening because it didn't happen to THEM, right? They want to go on having "fun"- you know, gay bashing, trans bashing and generally acting like ignorant bigots. Fortunately, there were enough bloggers here with a working conscience that stuck to their principles and sense of decency. We got Thalia back on the site and the site has made a commitment to stop the harassment as soon as it starts in the future. This site of all sites should be tolerant of our differing sexuality and be inclusive of all preferences and all the many gender identities.

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10/11/2016 4:24 pm

    Quoting Resident_Bitch:
    We are hoping the Site will learn to 'nip it in the bud' as soon as someone persists targets/stalks/harrass, from now on.....
I'm hoping that too and they need help in doing it. When you see something evil the right thing to do is to speak up about it.

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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1/23/2017 5:49 am

    Quoting rh1972:
    Pure garbage!

    If I respond to a woman's profile, and I find out she's a tranny, I've been lied to! Just like a couple's profile where there's no woman, I've been lied to.

    You can pretend to be a woman all you want, but you're not. No self-belief will ever change that. It's scientific fact; you can't change your DNA.

    Why would you want to lie to other people anyways?
Your attitude is ill informed and narrow minded. If you took the trouble to educate yourself about gender dysphoria your ignorance might be cured, but fixing your bad attitude will take more work than just learning the facts about what it means to be transgendered. Maybe you see garbage here where instead there is compassion because your heart and head are so full of self centered trash.

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nicelipss66 44F
23707 posts
11/29/2017 10:21 pm

And guess what Bill. I heard she is NOT a chick with a dick after all

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kzoopair 69M/67F
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11/29/2017 10:34 pm

    Quoting nicelipss66:
    And guess what Bill. I heard she is NOT a chick with a dick after all
Ha! No, she sure as hell ain't!

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