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trump baselessly disputes HHS IG report and repeats false claims  

nosnowforme 64F  
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4/7/2020 6:00 am
trump baselessly disputes HHS IG report and repeats false claims

Fact checking trump's claims the HHS IG report
At Monday's briefing, Fox News correspondent Kristin Fisher asked the president about a recently released report from the Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Inspector General which details challenges facing hospitals in responding to the coronavirus pandemic, including shortages of supplies and equipment, as well as prolonged wait times to get testing results.
In response, trump said, "It's just wrong. Did I hear the word 'inspector general,' really? It's wrong."
When pushed on the fact that the report was released by his own administration, trump suggested the findings were politically motivated, asking, "Well where did he come from, the inspector general? What's his name?" trump later added, "So give me the name of the inspector general. Could politics be entered into that?"
Facts First: There's no evidence to suggest anything about the report is wrong, or that it was somehow politically motivated. The report was independently launched by the HHS OIG and based on interviews conducted between March 23 and 27 with administrators at more than 300 hospitals across 46 states, Puerto Rico and Washington, DC. The report found hospitals faced testing shortages and longer than usual wait times for coronavirus test results.
The report's findings of shortages at key hospitals also corroborated previous press reports from hospitals in New York and elsewhere, which are facing severe shortages of vital medical equipment. According to the HHS report, its purpose is to provide a snapshot of hospitals' experiences amid a growing number of coronavirus cases and doesn't serve as a review of the department's response to the outbreak.
The senior HHS OIG officials who oversaw this watchdog report are both women: Ann Maxwell, the assistant inspector general for evaluation and inspections, and Christi Grimm, the principal deputy inspector general. Grimm, whose name is on the report, is a career official who entered her current role in January but has been with HHS since 1999, serving under both Republican and Democratic administrations.

Coronavirus tests
On Monday, trump claimed, as he did last week, that his administration had initially been burdened by an "obsolete" test for the coronavirus.
"Initially speaking, the tests were old, obsolete, and not really prepared," he said Monday.
Facts First: The faulty initial test for the coronavirus was created during trump's administration, in early 2020, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since this is a new virus that was first identified this year, the tests couldn't possibly be "old" or "obsolete."
"He is lying. He is lying 100%. He is lying because he is trying to shift blame to others, even if the attempt is totally nonsensical," Gregg Gonsalves, an assistant professor in the Department of Epidemiology of Microbial Diseases at the Yale School of Public Health, said of a previous version of trump's claim.
The claim "doesn't make sense because it is false," Tara Smith, an epidemiology professor at Kent State University, said of a previous version of the claim. "This a new virus."
Sticking to past practice, the CDC created its own test for the coronavirus rather than use the test being distributed by the World Health Organization. The CDC began developing its test in January 2020 and announced on February 5 that it would begin shipping test kits to public health labs around the US.
Soon after that, there were reports that some of the test kits were not working properly. The CDC admitted the problem on February . It announced February 28 that it had manufactured brand new, functional test kits that addressed the problem, which had been caused by a flaw in one of the components of the original test.

trump on performance of the small business lending program
During Monday's White House coronavirus task force briefing, trump claimed that the Paycheck Protection Program -- a small businesses lending program -- has "really been performing well."
trump said there were a few "minor glitches that have already been taken care of."
Facts First: CNN has reported significant issues the Paycheck Protection Program (PPP), with system wide failures as lenders process these loans.
Days after the launch of the Small Business Administration's rollout of the PPP, there are still delays in the system lenders use upload loan application information and the money is still largely not going out the businesses that need it yet.
According an industry source who spoke CNN, major system-wide failures continue crop in the PPP system, including shutdowns preventing the submission of applications from lenders on their system known as E-Tran. These issues have slowed down the ability for banks participate in the loan program, this source tells CNN.
Additionally, several bank executives tell CNN they want the Treasury Department or the Small Business Administration offer more guidance how they are supposed disburse funds. CNN reporting indicates there are also concerns among lenders who say they won't cut checks until there is clear guidance on how they should distribute the money.
read more about the early glitches in the small business lending program, read here and here.

Plane passengers being tested for the coronavirus
Asked about the possibility of restrictions on travel between coronavirus hotspots, trump said: "There's also testing done when people get onto those planes and also when people get off the planes."
Facts First: There is no evidence that plane passengers in the US are being tested for the coronavirus at all, let alone both when they get on and get off the plane. While it is theoretically possible this is happening under the radar at a particular airport, it is certainly not happening widely.
trump might have meant to refer to screening -- which involves questioning and sometimes temperature checks -- rather than actual testing, but major US airlines are not doing screening, either. Some plane passengers are being subjected to government screening upon landing, but most passengers are not -- and this screening, unlike testing, cannot conclusively determine whether someone has the virus.

The Obama administration and H1N1
trump slammed the Obama administration for its handling of the H1N1 (swine flu) pandemic in 2009.
"The other administration, they didn't even know -- it was like they didn't even know it was here," he said.
Facts First: It's not true that the Obama administration did not notice H1N1 or take significant action to fight the pandemic.
On April 26, 2009, less than two weeks after the first US cases of H1N1 were confirmed, the Obama administration declared a public health emergency. Two days later, the Obama administration made an initial $1.5 billion funding request to Congress. (Congress ultimately allocated $7.7 billion.) On that same day, the Food and Drug Administration approved the CDC's test; the CDC began distributing the tests domestically and internationally on May 1, 2009.
In October 2009, President Barack Obama declared a national emergency to allow hospitals more flexibility for a possible flood of H1N1 patients.
The Obama administration did face criticism over the pace of its vaccination effort, but the suggestion that the administration seemed not to notice H1N1 is unfounded.
trump also said Monday that ",000 people" died in the H1N1 pandemic. The CDC estimates that ,469 people were killed by H1N1 between April 2009 and April 2010. Its estimate range is a minimum of 8,868 a maximum of 18,306, so trump's ",000" figure is plausible, but it's worth noting that it's toward the high end.

Trade with China
trump also spoke Monday about topics other than the coronavirus pandemic. He made false claims in rapid succession about trade with China.
Biggest trade deal
trump said, "We just signed a trade deal, it's the biggest deal probably ever made..."
Facts First: "Biggest" is vague, but experts say trump's "phase one" deal with China is not the biggest ever.
Alan Deardorff, a University of Michigan professor of international economics who focuses on trade, said it is smaller than both the Trans-Pacific Partnership and the Uruguay Round that created the World Trade Organization in terms of the volume of trade they cover. Gary Clyde Hufbauer, a nonresident senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, said that George W. Bush granting China the status of permanent normal trade relations in 2001 was "far bigger" than trump's China deal, covering a far greater number of subjects (tariffs, non-tariff barriers, investment and others).
Never spent money
trump said China is now going spend billions of dollars on US agriculture and other products, "whereas China never spent money in our country. We spent money."
Facts First: This is nonsense. Since 1995, China has spent at least $10 billion every year on imported US goods. Since 2011, it is more than $100 billion per year.
And that spending on imports doesn't include tens of billions of dollars in foreign direct investment by China in the United States.

Trade deficit
trump said, "We had a deficit, a trade deficit, with China for years, of $500 billion, $400 billion..."
Facts First: There has never been a $500 billion trade deficit with China. The 2018 deficit was about $381 billion when counting trade in both goods and services; the goods and services deficit fell about $308 billion in 2019.
The deficit with China has not been $500 billion even if you only count trade in goods and ignoring trade in services. The deficit did exceed $400 billion in 2018 if you only count trade in goods -- it was about $420 billion -- but that had never happened before.


nosnowforme 64F  
345 posts
4/15/2020 8:25 pm

Any of you trump fans want to take that in your mouth?


s2ndegree 61M  
9740 posts
4/14/2020 1:42 pm

Wow! A lardlike statue of trumpty dumpty!

Using more than all the road!


nosnowforme replies on 4/15/2020 7:06 am:
Perhaps it will come to your neighborhood for a visit

bigboy9989 60M
65 posts
4/8/2020 1:03 pm

Find a political site you stupid cow.


nosnowforme replies on 4/8/2020 4:51 pm:
Why? Would you like to discuss politics?

justaguyinalaska 54M  
653 posts
4/7/2020 1:31 pm

Outstanding aggregation of sad realities in our nation. If anything, you have simply covered the *high points*. The depth of incompetence and organized criminal activity in the executive branch is mind-boggling, especially as it is documented on an hourly basis and broadcast to an (unsurprisingly) complacent idiocracy.


baccus09 58M
158 posts
4/7/2020 1:06 pm

Don't know why we talk politics here, when we don't know what the hell your talking about. I'm sure your all political science majors.


nosnowforme replies on 4/7/2020 6:28 pm:
No politics were discussed

Allhard4u50 58M
1093 posts
4/7/2020 9:29 am

This is a sex site.....you obviously have TDS


nosnowforme replies on 4/7/2020 9:35 am:
It is a curious finding how these types of statements regularly emanate from the sexless

hounetech 58M
72 posts
4/7/2020 7:42 am

President Trump should tell Greta Thunberg he is doing a lot to combat climate change, he shut down a country for a whole month and the hole in the ozone is almost gone.


nosnowforme replies on 4/7/2020 9:32 am:
the citizens shut down the country ...not the trump

LovesAsiansNYC 59M  
77 posts
4/7/2020 7:26 am

Well written and based on facts.

Unlike the disparaging comments you will likely receive from the ignorant hoards who worship our Sexist, Racist, Self Serving Egomaniac President.


Kalbi54 65M
1241 posts
4/7/2020 7:23 am

The problem is that the MAGAts don't care about the facts. They rarely if ever try to dispute it. Instead they prefer:
1. Attack the messenger (name calling seems to be a favorite)
2. Misdirect by changing topics
3. Blame the "Deep State"
4. Blame Obama (after 3 plus years)
5. Point out Hillary Clinton's foibles


nosnowforme replies on 4/7/2020 9:30 am:
perhaps one of best bits is that club trump is the deep state, and they are blind to it ...very sad

nosnowforme 64F  
345 posts
4/7/2020 6:02 am

The dickie do is great ...I wonder how many decades it has been since he has seen it live


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