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Open Relationships - What a chore...to other people! :P  

partygald 38F
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11/24/2018 1:37 am

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Open Relationships - What a chore...to other people! :P


Open relationships. How do you even begin to explain yourself and your choices to those friends of yours who ask? I've had my fair share of experiences trying to explain what it is and how it makes sense to us, not only me, not only him. Granted, not all my experiences trying to explain myself have been bad. I've had some good, understanding reactions. And I'm not even looking for understanding, just non-judgemental. Most of the time though, its tiring AF trying to explain myself. It's the same for the husband too. It's tiring. So most of the time, we just don't bother. The only problem with that is, if/when people find out, and we try to explain, it gets weird, sometimes.

Anyhoo. I usually keep it to myself, and for those who know, know. And those who don't, don't. I have a bf, and keep a close knit of friends who know, and an even smaller group that I actively play with. So I haven't had to have this conversation or anything of the like for awhile now. And lo-and-behold, I get it happening all in one week!

I've been in SG this past week and the husband came by so we could spend a bit of time together. As luck would also have it, I got sick the past two days and have been crashing through the weekend. But that's beside the point. Back to this. Last night, feeling a bit better, we went out for dinner. We bumped into one of our old friends, who used to work together with us. It was us, this friend of ours, and his wife. Like I said, we all used to work together but he was always more the husband's friend than he was mine. You know, one of those. Since we've known each other for a good few years now, we got quite comfortable with each other's company.

At one point, I came back to the table and the was greeted by a sudden, hushed silence. It was so obvious it got awkward. So, naturally, I called them out on it. (granted, I really wasn't feeling well so, social etiquette wasn't at it's best). The friend and his wife kept quiet about it, so I pressed the husband on it. He laughed and said it was nothing. Of course I pressed him a little more, cos it obviously wasn't nothing. . Turns out, the wife saw me while I was out with my fwb a few weeks back when I was here last. She told her husband, who then had texted my husband about it. I don't know how my husband responded to the texts, but apparently, they felt the need to bring it up again. Cos they thought I was cheating on him, and for reasons unknown to them, my husband knew and didn't want to do anything about it. You can see how it looks like. They felt like I was I was bullying him or something. (and for the record, they ARE nice people)

Didn't help when my initial reaction was to laugh. They started getting a little worked up, and the husband and I had to calm them down before we told them we were in an open marriage. I was trying very hard to not tell them how we started but I suppose, it couldn't be helped, so we had a long drawn out conversation on how we got into it and how it's like for us, the problems we've had, and how it works for us. I thought it was an honest and careful description that my husband and I gave, and it took a fairly long time too. So it was a bit of a kick in the face when all he (our friend) could say was, "So you let other people fuck your wife?!?" And he kept directing his question to my husband too. I'm like, "hello? I'm sitting right here". And no one "lets' other people fuck anyone. It's a conscious decision by both of us. (Hang on... I suppose that does mean we "let" it )

It got a bit awkward for only a little while after that, but as soon as they knew (and all credit to them, by the way) I wasn't cheating on the hubby, things got back to normal. But still, its THAT kind of reactions that make it really tiresome to explain ourselves. Which is. bitch, cos it's exactly those kind of situations that require us to explain ourselves..

partygald 38F
1813 posts
11/24/2018 1:41 am

At the end of the day, the husband and I both know that it's no one else's business but our own. (One of the contributing factors why we moved away from Singapore too. Not a major one, but it was one of it) And we're at the stage where we can care less about anyone else's opinions, but its still a bit of a chore having to explain to some people. Right?

I mean, presumably you're explaining only cos you want those to know.


Italiancalidude 48M
325 posts
11/24/2018 2:42 am

Open relationships are a true blessing, most peoples cannot understand the beauty of it!

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Looknfind18 68M  
4277 posts
11/24/2018 5:26 am

Its no one else's business but someone will always feel they have to ask. Just the way of many peoples nature.


Granny872 68F  
2722 posts
11/24/2018 5:33 am

I will be the first to say I absolutely do not understand 'open' relationships. I guess my biggest question is 'why even be married?' although I do understand that people want their cake while they also eat it. Money, social standing, kids, etc. Of course, it's none of my business, it's just always been a mystery to me.


Platosgames 98M  
3182 posts
11/24/2018 6:41 am

I think a lot of people try to conform into what they believe society tells them to . Then they project that view on how others should live.

I personally have never really wanted to "fit in". As long as it doesn't involve kids or farm animals, why should it matter what anyone else's preferences are.

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BiggLala 48F  
28939 posts
11/24/2018 7:51 am

See...THIS is an example of why I won't get involved with married men...even married men in confirmed open relationships. People are too nosy and try to get into other people's business. I mean...I understand your husband's friend was probably trying to look out for him, initially anyway...BUT...(IMO ) that depends on close the friendship is. It's all just so convoluted.

Like you said...it's awkward for you to explain to people, but you shouldn't have to explain either. It's no one's business but yours and your husband's.

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MyBaffies 51M
4409 posts
11/24/2018 10:13 am

As you stated, it's no one's business except your own. I just wonder if they initially mentioned it as they were looking out for their friend (your husband) and thought there might be something going on behind his back.

Relationships - no wonder they create so much stress! Good for them for understanding your situation.

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ClitLickB4DickU 61M
1222 posts
11/25/2018 1:58 am

Yes, it's amazing how most educated people consider themselves broad-minded, and respect other peoples choices.......until confronted with something that runs contrary to their own value system.

As you say, best to keep it to yourselves to avoid having to explain. It would be different if you displayed your relationships openly.


maneo69 65M
878 posts
11/25/2018 5:17 pm

Can't really avoid the question when others see you out & about.
There aren't many in SG that would be accepting of your arrangement.
It's a conservative society & such openness without guilt rattles their cages.

All you can do is say,
"This is our thing & we're happy with it.
We just hope that others can accept that we are happy & not pass judgement."
Then, change the subject (quickly).


partygald 38F
1813 posts
11/25/2018 5:21 pm

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I suppose that's what it is - a lot of grey area. But defined grey areas too. But yeah, overall it's still a bitch to have to try explaining it.
Thanks for chipping in


partygald 38F
1813 posts
11/25/2018 5:26 pm

    Quoting Granny872:
    I will be the first to say I absolutely do not understand 'open' relationships. I guess my biggest question is 'why even be married?' although I do understand that people want their cake while they also eat it. Money, social standing, kids, etc. Of course, it's none of my business, it's just always been a mystery to me.
Its ok to not get it, or disagree with it. We're all entitled to our own thoughts and opinions. We're married for reason most people are - we love each other (like most marriages, most of the time ) and have a commitment to each other. Think of it as....having unusual extra-curricular activities

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partygald 38F
1813 posts
11/25/2018 5:31 pm

    Quoting Platosgames:
    I think a lot of people try to conform into what they believe society tells them to . Then they project that view on how others should live.

    I personally have never really wanted to "fit in". As long as it doesn't involve kids or farm animals, why should it matter what anyone else's preferences are.
Yeah, it's subjecting their standards onto others. People (ok, not all) always do that.


partygald 38F
1813 posts
11/25/2018 5:33 pm

    Quoting BiggLala:
    See...THIS is an example of why I won't get involved with married men...even married men in confirmed open relationships. People are too nosy and try to get into other people's business. I mean...I understand your husband's friend was probably trying to look out for him, initially anyway...BUT...(IMO ) that depends on close the friendship is. It's all just so convoluted.

    Like you said...it's awkward for you to explain to people, but you shouldn't have to explain either. It's no one's business but yours and your husband's.
Yeah, that's exactly it, isn't it...but we still find ourselves in those situations.
Thankfully not often. But still

Thanks for chipping in


partygald 38F
1813 posts
11/25/2018 5:35 pm

    Quoting MyBaffies:
    As you stated, it's no one's business except your own. I just wonder if they initially mentioned it as they were looking out for their friend (your husband) and thought there might be something going on behind his back.

    Relationships - no wonder they create so much stress! Good for them for understanding your situation.
Ha! Don't know if they understood it. Took them long enough to wrap their heads around what we were trying to tell them. But fuck it. They asked, and we've told them. It's their issue to manage now. We DID ask them specifically to be discreet about it so.....I doubt that will happen


partygald 38F
1813 posts
11/25/2018 5:42 pm

    Quoting ClitLickB4DickU:
    Yes, it's amazing how most educated people consider themselves broad-minded, and respect other peoples choices.......until confronted with something that runs contrary to their own value system.

    As you say, best to keep it to yourselves to avoid having to explain. It would be different if you displayed your relationships openly.
Yeah. Time and place for everything, I suppose.


porterpiper1 53F
3755 posts
11/26/2018 7:46 pm

you two are happy with your life style, that what matters


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11/28/2018 10:36 pm

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discreteSteve62 52M
2078 posts
5/15/2019 10:38 pm

The simple answer might be, "It's only cheating if the man and woman expect exclusivity from each other, and we are non-exclusive by mutual agreement."

But the nuisance of having to explain is one reason that it's often easier to keep non-exclusivity in the closet.


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