This profile is a shared profile for the surlyone group, Jen, Lori, and Mick, a long term commited 3 some living in the southbay. We are not accepting new members, but are "interviewing for new chewtoys". The difference between conceit, and arrogance, is arrogance can be backed up. WE ARE ARROGANT!!! Oh, and we are okay with that. :) SINGLE GUYS, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME!!! Let us be clear here. If you are rude enough to violate our contact policies below, then you can expect a rude, insulting, honest, and forthright email in response. Please do not be surprised if we call into question your intelligence, morals, or worthiness to continue drawing breathe. Our primary rules... 1) If you are desperate, we're not interested. 2) If you SEEM desperate, we're not interested. 3) If you are a single guy, you are (by definition) desperate, see rule 1 3)a. If you are a single guy who takes offense to this broad generalization, think about the behaviour of OTHER single guys. Stereotypes come from reality, and the reality is that these "rules" are based on our observation, and are generally (if maybe not specifically) applicable. Jen is a tall gorgeous redhead, a recent college graduate, taking a yr or two off before grad school. She has done modeling, is a photographer, and has done nightclub promotions, etc. Mick is a long-term fixture in the poly and freak scene in the bay area. He makes and collects knives and swords, and (oddly enough) also sews. He is married to a beautiful sexy woman, Lori, who very rarely can be found on here. Lori is a smarter than you can believe, sexy, sarcastic, cynical, and multi-orgasmic. She does not do "gentle". Her catch phrase is "fuck me like you hate me", but it is doubtful you will meet her high standards (sounds harsh, but is true). We live in Campbell Ca, but are often in Santa Cruz and San Francisco for events, and (during the summer) go for long motorcycle rides (so can head up to Sac or up HWY 1 to meet up). We go to socal every few months for shopping in the garment district, and to club in Hollywood. We are into the Goth sub-culture, but mostly because we like the clothes :) . We hate people who pigeonhole themselves based on a particular (usually narrow) idea of who they'd like to be. IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ RE NETWORKING!!! When first we signed on here, we had no clear networking policy, accepted invites from people we have not met, or from people we are not likely to meet (or should that be 'meat'? :) ). So, our network list is currently sub-optimal for our uses (we don't cyber). We will be parsing it down to people we have met, people who seem to be making an effort to meet up with us, or we are likely to meet up with. Please do not take it perally if we remove you. If we remove you, and you feel it is in error (i.e. you actually wanted to meet us, just haven't had occasion to), then send us a new invite. Jen and I are an open couple. She is a physical the; I work in the computer industry. She is bi; I am straight (but not uptight) We are looking for literate, intelligent, thoughtful and sexy people who are fun both in and out of bed. We are unwilling to share more explicit pics with strangers, so please don't ask. If you are a single male, please stop wasting your time, we are not looking right now. If you are a single male POSING as a couple, go to hell. We DO like curvy women, and Jen does not have a hang-up over larger guys, BUT, if you are a couch potato, who gets out of breath just getting up to answer the phone, we are not interested. If you are unable to hold a conversation, well, we are not the couple for you. If you have not been to a bookstore in the last 2 weeks, we are ALSO probably not the couple for you. If you are intelligent, literate, D/D free, well groomed, have some sense of style, enjoy clubbing, drinking in moderation, AND ARE NOT INTERESTED IN DRAMA, then we would love to talk with you. If you would like to get together for coffee/drinks/dinner, let us know. After that, we can perhaps go further (but almost definitely not on the first get together). We love women, in all their myriad forms. We ONLY play together. We are NOT interested in cyber, nor (generally) in soft-swap. Safer sex is a must (and who here remembers when "safe sex" meant making sure the door was locked so her dad didn't walk in? :) ). That having been said, we do not use comdoms or dental dams for oral (if you're that paranoid, we're not interested ). We are not "players" in that we are very selective, and have not yet hooked up with ANYBODY from this site. We prefer quality to quantity. We are NOT ageist, but if you look like our grandparents, well, "not our thing". We are well groomed (trimmed or shave) and hope you are as well. Jen VERY INFREQUENTLY smokes, but if you smell like an ashtray, we're not interested. We are most interested in people to hang out with, hit clubs and private parties with, and build up a network of friends with like interests. If anything clicks, great, but neither Jen nor I feel a NEED to hook-up. Now, if by the end of this rant, you think "what a bunch of self-righteous, sanctimonious, judgmental, self-absorbed narcissists" (and you used those words in your head) YOU ARE OUR KIND OF PEOPLE!!!! Send us email!!! Let's hook up. Jen, Mick, and Lori

My Ideal Person WE NOW TRAVEL AND PLAY IN SO-CAL (long beach) 2 -3 weekends a month!!!!

Women and couples who are intelligent, literate, stylish, and safe (but not paranoid).

Interesting, intelligent, attractive people. If your not able to see the gross grammar error in this sentence, you shouldn't bother replying.